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If you have this lad in the team, then the ball needs to go through him and Cabaye, not over them. While it did go through the midfield more against Arsenal. Signing a Carroll type, which seems to be Pardew wish. We will only go more direct.

 

Signing a Carroll type doesn't have to mean we will go more direct, of course it doesn't. Pardew is the manager though, so that's exactly what will happen imo, therefore not helping Anita at all.

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You don't need a "tackler". Do Bayern have a "tackler"? No, they have three competent, very athletic ball carriers who can all pass with metronomic accuracy. They then teach them how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back. If we had a decent coach, or any coach, they could just teach Vurnon how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back and play it. The British obsession with having a holding midfielder/destroyer is another thing holding our game back. Midfielders are the links and the engine in a football team, they all need to be comply comfortable in possession, accurate in passing and adept at finding space first and foremost. Then you teach them how to tackle.

 

Of course, this being Pardew's team, the priorities are ability to tackle, hoof towards a vague space in front (preferably where opposition team member is standing) and then stand on defence's toes as time goes on.

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All he needs to do is learn the deepest midfielder positioning for this team and use his pace and intelligence to read the game and either be in the right place first, or work on his timing of nicking the ball.

 

I'm thinking with time, he'll learn that and be a top player (hopefully here). The young kid was schooled at Ajax man, his training was far superior before he came here to work under the excuse-man.

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You don't need a "tackler". Do Bayern have a "tackler"? No, they have three competent, very athletic ball carriers who can all pass with metronomic accuracy. They then teach them how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back. If we had a decent coach, or any coach, they could just teach Vurnon how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back and play it. The British obsession with having a holding midfielder/destroyer is another thing holding our game back. Midfielders are the links and the engine in a football team, they all need to be comply comfortable in possession, accurate in passing and adept at finding space first and foremost. Then you teach them how to tackle.

 

Of course, this being Pardew's team, the priorities are ability to tackle, hoof towards a vague space in front (preferably where opposition team member is standing) and then stand on defence's toes as time goes on.

 

Every player will bring their own package of strengths and weaknesses, but I'd agree that the idea of the specialist ball-winner who can't pass is looking increasingly out of date at Premiership level.

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You don't need a "tackler". Do Bayern have a "tackler"? No, they have three competent, very athletic ball carriers who can all pass with metronomic accuracy. They then teach them how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back. If we had a decent coach, or any coach, they could just teach Vurnon how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back and play it. The British obsession with having a holding midfielder/destroyer is another thing holding our game back. Midfielders are the links and the engine in a football team, they all need to be comply comfortable in possession, accurate in passing and adept at finding space first and foremost. Then you teach them how to tackle.

 

Of course, this being Pardew's team, the priorities are ability to tackle, hoof towards a vague space in front (preferably where opposition team member is standing) and then stand on defence's toes as time goes on.

 

By the time a player reaches his age, shouldn't he be able to that already? It isn't kind of like too late to teach him that?

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Players shouldn't even need to tackle if the team presses effectively as one unit.

 

Very true, and as has been said before: Anita's technique and movement would most likely buy us time, we panic in possession in our own half so fucking much, mainly because we play static and slow players in a formation completley lacking the necessary dynamics.

 

Anita would "make us tick" (cliché, I know) with moving players around him. There's also an overwhelming chance of less hoofing from the back four if we play him. Seems to move into spaces where he can receive the ball all the time, always an option even for those lacking any passing ability of note.

 

Insted of Cabaye standing next to Williamson, waiting to lunge it forward.

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Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast

You don't need a "tackler". Do Bayern have a "tackler"? No, they have three competent, very athletic ball carriers who can all pass with metronomic accuracy. They then teach them how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back. If we had a decent coach, or any coach, they could just teach Vurnon how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back and play it. The British obsession with having a holding midfielder/destroyer is another thing holding our game back. Midfielders are the links and the engine in a football team, they all need to be comply comfortable in possession, accurate in passing and adept at finding space first and foremost. Then you teach them how to tackle.

 

Of course, this being Pardew's team, the priorities are ability to tackle, hoof towards a vague space in front (preferably where opposition team member is standing) and then stand on defence's toes as time goes on.

 

The only thing you're missing is that teams that don't play with a tackler or sweeper have really good CB's and their back 4 works as a unit when defending and to keep possession. As good as Colo was last season, he still got ripped apart by the pacier players in the league and don't get me started on Willo or S.Taylor. And when you consider the number of physical forwards and midfielders in the league, having an "enforcer" is a necessity and not an option

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  • 4 weeks later...

Time to shine I guess. Let's hope a season bedding in, and a place opening up in the team lets him grow from the odd glimpse he's shown.

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I like him, think he is a very good player even though he struggled a bit last season BUT there is no way he is going to play a bigger part next season, not unless we plan on bringing in a manager that actually wants to play football

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Guest Phil K

He'll be off IMO.

He could (rightly) say he hasn't been used correctly by pardew.

But no other Newcastle player has either.

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hope to see him much more next season.

 

hope we keep these and plays like this:

 

3 man central midfield:

 

 

            tiote                * or cabaye

  Sissoko      Cabaye    * or Anita

 

Perch should be behind anita next season. Bigi loan maybe. Jonas bench.

 

 

 

 

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