Dyeyzzon Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Think we'll sign one more player. Any more will be replacements, and even then I'm unsure. Aye, been a frustrating window so far, but I think all the hard negotiations will pay off for at least one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Seriously like, it's pretty obvious we're waiting to find out whether or not we're in Yurop this season before making any more moves. Don't know about you lot, but it's pretty damn obvious to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 As it stands I'd rate the window 6.5/10. Another two signings, keep a hold of the blue chip brigade and we'll be set up for a pretty good season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Aren't we just getting Fulham to pay the plane fare? We have an advance standard class train ticket from London King's Cross to Newcastle booked for 28th. Booked in May for £8.10 on trainline.com. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 If we only sign one more player i think it's been quite a poor window tbh, not much ambition then like. Thrust me, i dont wanna throw money left, right, centre, but i think 2-3 more players wouldn't be asking for too much imo. Looks like we're able to keep all our key players (tin hat on) this window, but say that we suffer with injuries more than last season (when we were lucky injury wise) combined with a lot more games this year i can't see us very high up the table at the end of the season. And question is, will we be able too keep our best players for next season again? If we sign just one more im afraid we'll suffer over a whole season and then struggle to keep our key players even more. Hopefully im wrong like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 As it stands I'd rate the window 6.5/10. Another two signings, keep a hold of the blue chip brigade and we'll be set up for a pretty good season. Think that's just about a fair rating, like. While we haven't lost key men so far, potentially losing out to our top targets for just 1m more has been f***ing diabolical like. I would understand if it was missing out because they ask for twice the price of what we offer, but it's just worth one Ashley casino trip ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I dont want us to get players in just for the sake of it, if we arent going to match the fulham bid, it is not due to lack of funds, it is because we do not think he is worth paying that fee. Although i do think we need at least a RB and a CF, but i would rather we waited until january if it meant getting the right players in for the right price. Pards has already confirmed we have been following him for a long time. Not sure of his exact words from the talk in but I dont think its a case of him not being the right player. Aye, but 5.5m euro's isnt much in football terms, we could match that bid if we really wanted to, there is probably different options we are looking at as well Which is why I think we are keeping everything back for Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 If we only sign one more player i think it's been quite a poor window tbh, not much ambition then like. Thrust me, THRUST you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Seriously like, it's pretty obvious we're waiting to find out whether or not we're in Yurop this season before making any more moves. Don't know about you lot, but it's pretty damn obvious to me From which perspective? If you mean that you're waiting to find out if you qualify so that you can spend all that extra loot, then you'll be sorely disappointed It wouldn't cover half a Dawson. As your man says, there really isn't a lot of money in it (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-boss-alan-pardew-hits-1268823). However, if you're waiting to find out if you need to strengthen the squad, then you probably need to strengthen it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Thrust me No thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 For some reason the thread title makes me laugh. Me ITK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 As it stands I'd rate the window 6.5/10. Another two signings, keep a hold of the blue chip brigade and we'll be set up for a pretty good season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Wouldn't have wanted Taylor dropped for him anyway. We have Perchy and even Williamson as 4th choice, if we got Debuchy we would be sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 To be honest, very few clubs have done business, and those that have have bought players either beyond us or below us. Cheaper to stick with players you have got in general. Very hard to get a player that will improve a very good first team at a decent price, while backup roles may not suit some players or be worth the expenditure. Look at the transfers in to date. Only the ones I have bolded are at a good price, suitable for our team, and likely to accept the role they would have been offered if as a backup player. ARSENAL IN Santi Cazorla (Malaga, £16.5m), Olivier Giroud (Montpellier, £13m), Lukas Podoloski (Cologne, £11m) ASTON VILLA IN Matthew Lowton (Sheffield United, £3m), Ron Vlaar (Feyenoord, undisclosed), Karim El Ahmadi (Feyenoord, undisclosed) Brett Holman (AZ Alkmaar, free) Click here for the latest Aston Villa transfer news CHELSEA IN Eden Hazard (Lille, £32m), Oscar (Internacional, £25m), Marko Marin (Werder Bremen, £7m), Thorgan Hazard (Lens, free), Josh McEachran (Middlesbrough, loan) EVERTON IN Steven Pienaar (Tottenham, £4.5m), Steven Naismith (Rangers, free), Kevin Mirallas (Olympiakos, £5.2m) FULHAM IN Hugo Rodallega (Wigan, free), Mladen Petric (Hamburg, free), George Williams (MK Dons, free), Sascha Riether (Cologne, loan) LIVERPOOL IN Joe Allen (Swansea, £15m), Fabio Borini (Roma, £10m) Oussama Assaidi (Heerenveen, £3m) MANCHESTER CITY IN Jack Rodwell (Everton, £12m) MANCHESTER UNITED IN Robin van Persie (Arsenal, £24m), Shinji Kagawa (Dortmund, £17m), Nick Powell (Crewe, £4m), Alexander Buttner (Vitesse Arnhem, £4m) NORWICH IN Sebastian Bassong (Tottenham, undisclosed), Robert Snodgrass (Leeds, £3m), Michael Turner (Sunderland, undisclosed), Jacob Butterfield (Barnsley, undisclosed), Steven Whittaker (Rangers, free), Javier Garrido (Lazio, loan) QUEENS PARK RANGERS IN Junior Hoilett (Blackburn, tribunal), Park Ji-sung (Manchester United, undisclosed), Samba Diakite (Nancy, undisclosed), Robert Green (West Ham, free), Ryan Nelsen (Tottenham, free), Andrew Johnson (Fulham, free), Fabio (Manchester United, loan), Jose Bosingwa (Chelsea, free) READING IN Chris Gunter (Nottingham Forest, £2.5m), Adrian Mariappa (Watford, £2.5m), Pierce Sweeney (Bray Wanderers, undisclosed), Pavel Pogrebnyak (Fulham, free), Danny Guthrie (Newcastle, free), Garath McCleary (Nottingham Forest, free), Nicky Shorey (West Brom, free), Stuart Taylor (Manchester City, free) SOUTHAMPTON IN Jay Rodriguez (Burnley, £6m), Paulo Gazzaniga (Gillingham, undisclosed), Steven Davis (Rangers, free), Nathaniel Clyne (Crystal Palace, compensation not yet agreed) STOKE IN Michael Kightly (Wolves, £2m), Geoff Cameron (Houston Dynamo, undisclosed), Jamie Ness (Rangers, free), Goran Popov (Dynamo Kiev, loan) SUNDERLAND IN Louis Saha (Tottenham, free), Carlos Cuellar (Aston Villa, free) SWANSEA IN Michu (Rayo Vallecano, £2m), Jose Manuel Flores (Genoa, £2m), Jonathan de Guzman (Villarreal, loan), Kyle Bartley (Arsenal, £1m), Jamie Proctor (Preston, undisclosed) TOTTENHAM IN Emmanuel Adebayor (Manchester City, £6m), Jan Vertonghen (Ajax, £10m), Gylfi Sigurdsson (Hoffenheim, £8m) WEST BROMWICH IN Ben Foster (Birmingham, undisclosed), Markus Rosenberg (Werder Bremen, free), Claudio Yacob (Racing Club de Avellaneda, free) Romelu Lukaku (Chelsea, loan), Yassine El Ghanassy (AA Gent, loan) WEST HAM IN Modibo Maiga (Sochaux, £5m), Alou Diarra (Marseille, £2m), James Collins (Aston Villa, undisclosed), Stephen Henderson (Portsmouth, undisclosed), George McCartney (Sunderland, undisclosed), Raphael Spiegel (Grasshoppers, undisclosed) Jussi Jaaskelainen (Bolton, free), Mohamed Diame (Wigan, free) WIGAN IN Arouna Kone (Levante, undisclosed), Ryo Miyaichi (Arsenal, loan), Ivan Ramis (Real Mallorca, undisclosed), Fraser Fyvie (Aberdeen, undisclosed) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So basically, of those attainable, of high standard, or likely to accept a backup role, we have Rodriguez and Mariappa who we looked at but decided not to bid for, Sigurdsson and Michu who we could argue that Anita with Cabaye further up is a decent enough alternative to those two, and Hoilett, who has a questionable attitude. So there has so far hardly been a transfer market worth muscling in on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 All of the teams likely to be challenging us have strengthened more than us. Dats the bottom line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm more concerned about the defence than the midfield or the attack personally, not sure if i'm alone with that line of thinking though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So basically, of those attainable, of high standard, or likely to accept a backup role, we have Rodriguez and Mariappa who we looked at but decided not to bid for, Sigurdsson and Michu who we could argue that Anita with Cabaye further up is a decent enough alternative to those two, and Hoilett, who has a questionable attitude. So there has so far hardly been a transfer market worth muscling in on. I would have thought Pienaar, Mirallas, Rodellaga (for free), Gunter and Kyle Bartley would have been suitable (although Pienaar was obviously only going to Everton). Fair point though. There is a massive gap between the big boys and the rest - just look at all the players we have supposedly been going for and their eventual destinations/wages/fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm more concerned about the defence than the midfield or the attack personally, not sure if i'm alone with that line of thinking though. Well, the defense as a whole probably has more s*** players than the attack, hence the notion, which I can understand. We've got 2 of the league's best strikers in Ba and Cisse, but that completely overlooks the fact that only Shola is the tested and trusted fallback option or fatigue reprieve for those two. I personally think both need work for different reasons: the defense needs quality, and the attack needs quantity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 All of the teams likely to be challenging us have strengthened more than us. Dats the bottom line. Looks like Everton have gone slightly backwards, Spurs and Liverpool treading water, and Arsenal and Chelsea signing players we could have no realistic ambitions to obtain. Have another look when the window closes, but as of this moment the players that have proven to be available (as they have actually been permitted to leave by their clubs) would not have been right for Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So basically, of those attainable, of high standard, or likely to accept a backup role, we have Rodriguez and Mariappa who we looked at but decided not to bid for, Sigurdsson and Michu who we could argue that Anita with Cabaye further up is a decent enough alternative to those two, and Hoilett, who has a questionable attitude. So there has so far hardly been a transfer market worth muscling in on. I would have thought Pienaar, Mirallas, Rodellaga (for free), Gunter and Kyle Bartley would have been suitable (although Pienaar was obviously only going to Everton). Fair point though. There is a massive gap between the big boys and the rest - just look at all the players we have supposedly been going for and their eventual destinations/wages/fees. Pienaar would never have accepted a back up role here over a transfer to Everton. Mirallas, don't really know him but if he is good he's another one where we can say we got Anita instead. Rodellega, I'm not a real fan of, I could see Pardew going for 1 up front ahead of him. Those right backs aren't ahead of Simpson and Santon. But obviously this is just subjective opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm still confident we'll sign Debuchy (and sell Simpson). Don't think we'll match Fulham's offer for Douglas though and I can't see Liverpool selling Carroll back to us for less than 10 million. I doubt we'll pay more than that. Not too concerned though, we have a determined squad with good work ethic. I'm confident that the younger / backup players can step up when needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Not losing any of our first team for me is a good window before anything else happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm more concerned about the defence than the midfield or the attack personally, not sure if i'm alone with that line of thinking though. the defense needs quality, and the attack needs quantity. Completely agree with that and i'm sure in the long run if we can keep our best players and just 2 or 3 quality additions each summer that's what we will see. Although it is a bit two-pronged thought because one of the players i want to the defence will add to the attack too which is why it's so important. Oh well, lets see what the next 10 days brings up if we get some extra quality in then great but if we don't then we still have the players who finished 5th last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm still confident we'll sign Debuchy (and sell Simpson). Don't think we'll match Fulham's offer for Douglas though and I can't see Liverpool selling Carroll back to us for less than 10 million. I doubt we'll pay more than that. Not too concerned though, we have a determined squad with good work ethic. I'm confident that the younger / backup players can step up when needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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