Benwell Lad Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Here's the Rod Liddle article. "I WONDER what the pressing personal reasons are that have made Fabricio Coloccini express a fervent desire to leave Newcastle this very minute and return to his home country, Argentina? I suppose, if you were a cynic, you might suggest the belated realisation that he plays for Newcastle United is the sort of thing that might unsettle any chap. You might add that not only does he play for the Geordies, but they’re nose-diving towards the Championship and the team are reportedly “unsettled”. Fabricio has experienced the Championship and may not wish to do so again. He is wanted by the Argentine side San Lorenzo; who knows if they can afford his reputed market value of £7m or his £60,000-a-week wages? Coloccini has offered to take a pay cut, so desperate is he to get the hell out. All this unfolded before Coloccini played in yesterday’s piquant 0-0 draw at Norwich, managed by Chris Hughton, who dragged Newcastle out of the Championship, with some brilliance, and was then booted out of St James’ Park. A first full season under Alan Pardew that promised much and thrilled the neutrals has been followed by rapid and chaotic decline. Injuries may be partly to blame — although providing strength in depth is the hallmark of the sensible manager — but a disastrous summer of non-spending and a series of inconvenient absences has done most of the damage. Not to mention a dwindling sense of commitment from the team and some questionable tactics from Pardew, all of which has seen Newcastle slump uncomfortably close to the relegation places, with two crunch fixtures coming up against Reading and Aston Villa. If they were to slip further into the mire, the Gallowgate faithful might begin their annual bare-chested howl for the return of Alan Shearer or, through some reanimation process, Sir Bobby. What 16th-placed Newcastle would give for the five points Norwich have on them this morning, for even the most tentative intimation of mid-table security. And what, one suspects, the fans would give for Chris Hughton. In fairness to the Geordie supporters, they have been far less quick to blame the manager than has been the case in previous seasons. It is true that, on the message boards at least, about 50% wish Pardew to be given the boot (despite that extremely generous eight-year contract); it is said that he has “lost the dressing room” and has fallen out with the top players (most notably Coloccini), too often resorts to “hoofball” tactics and has been unnecessarily sycophantic, in the past, to the likes of Demba Ba. His somewhat Panglossian post-match excuses also go down rather badly and there were rumours, a week or so back, that he had already been given the boot. This seems to have been mere wishful thinking. Still, even those who have little time for Pardew concede that it is the board, rather than the manager, that is more obviously culpable. Newcastle’s precarious position is the consequence, they argue, of a failure to invest in decent players, which has left the Geordies playing each week with half a youth team on the pitch. The summer was a particular disaster for Newcastle because at that point they were bidding for players from a position of strength, with genuine aspirations to being a top six or seven side and holding out the prospect of European football. What do they have to entice talented foreigners now, as they stare towards the abyss, other than money? And not even that much money. They were all terribly excited at the prospect of landing the Marseilles winger-cum-striker Loic Remy, but Arsenal are now in the hunt, too. Who do you suppose Remy will choose? The relegation-threatened outfit in the far northeast of England or the Champions League contenders in London — a team who, incidentally, Remy supported as a kid? How much extra would Newcastle have to pay in wages to compensate for not being Arsenal? I suspected Newcastle would not fare too well this season. But equally, and despite the fissuring at St James’ Park and the discontent of the players and fans, it seems to me highly unlikely that they will go down. This season the relegation battle is being contested by a good half of the teams in the division. It would take only two or three straight losses for West Ham or Stoke or Swansea to feel the breath of doom on the backs of their necks, and only two or three straight wins for Newcastle to feel assuaged by a certain degree of comfort. The smaller clubs tend to fare less well in the second half of the season and many will have injury crises of their own to contend with, just as Newcastle’s begins to improve a little. All that being said, I know what box I’d tick on the poll question at the front of one of the Newcastle fan sites: “Do you think we will qualify for Europe this season?” Always running before they can crawl." The man obviously hates Newcastle and the "Geordies" he repeatedly refers too. No problem with that plenty of others in the media do too. We get used to it. He is however, insulting towards Geordies, Newcastle and Newcastle fans. No need for that. Perhaps Mr.Liddle should keep his head down and avoid reporting on Newcastle for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 how does that fit in with cabaye getting debuchy here? if something was seriously wrong you'd have thought cabaye would have been looking to get away in the summer himself, rather than getting his best mate to sign a long contract. It's a fair point, but we have changed how we play from earlier in the season so maybe there's something in the rumours that it was a player led change? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Rod Liddle beat his pregnant girlfriend and got caught posting racist abuse on a Millwall forum. Enough said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The bloke obviously has an agenda, and the idea that Colo is so desperate to escape from a poor season that he's willing to take a massive pay cut to return to Argentina, months after he's signed a new contract, is just stupid. Given that the reason appears to be personal and to do with his family, Mr Liddle needs to be more careful. He actually puts forward the idea of Pardew 'losing the dressing room' as a rumour that appears on message boards, not as inside knowledge on his own part, so let's not panic on that. In fact, he seems to be targeting the fans as much as the club, for some reason. There's always going to be certain players who fall out with the manager at any one time, so I hope it's no more than that. I think Pardew badly mishandled the Ba / Cisse issue and hasn't been fair on the younger players when he singled them out. Unwarranted favouritism can be very corrosive to team spirit, and all this talk about how he can't wait to get this, that or the other player back isn't going to inspire the ones who are supposed to step up to the mark in the meantime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Liddle is a shock jock, not worth bothering with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Here's the Rod Liddle article. "I WONDER what the pressing personal reasons are that have made Fabricio Coloccini express a fervent desire to leave Newcastle this very minute and return to his home country, Argentina? I suppose, if you were a cynic, you might suggest the belated realisation that he plays for Newcastle United is the sort of thing that might unsettle any chap. You might add that not only does he play for the Geordies, but they’re nose-diving towards the Championship and the team are reportedly “unsettled”. Fabricio has experienced the Championship and may not wish to do so again. He is wanted by the Argentine side San Lorenzo; who knows if they can afford his reputed market value of £7m or his £60,000-a-week wages? Coloccini has offered to take a pay cut, so desperate is he to get the hell out. All this unfolded before Coloccini played in yesterday’s piquant 0-0 draw at Norwich, managed by Chris Hughton, who dragged Newcastle out of the Championship, with some brilliance, and was then booted out of St James’ Park. A first full season under Alan Pardew that promised much and thrilled the neutrals has been followed by rapid and chaotic decline. Injuries may be partly to blame — although providing strength in depth is the hallmark of the sensible manager — but a disastrous summer of non-spending and a series of inconvenient absences has done most of the damage. Not to mention a dwindling sense of commitment from the team and some questionable tactics from Pardew, all of which has seen Newcastle slump uncomfortably close to the relegation places, with two crunch fixtures coming up against Reading and Aston Villa. If they were to slip further into the mire, the Gallowgate faithful might begin their annual bare-chested howl for the return of Alan Shearer or, through some reanimation process, Sir Bobby. What 16th-placed Newcastle would give for the five points Norwich have on them this morning, for even the most tentative intimation of mid-table security. And what, one suspects, the fans would give for Chris Hughton. In fairness to the Geordie supporters, they have been far less quick to blame the manager than has been the case in previous seasons. It is true that, on the message boards at least, about 50% wish Pardew to be given the boot (despite that extremely generous eight-year contract); it is said that he has “lost the dressing room” and has fallen out with the top players (most notably Coloccini), too often resorts to “hoofball” tactics and has been unnecessarily sycophantic, in the past, to the likes of Demba Ba. His somewhat Panglossian post-match excuses also go down rather badly and there were rumours, a week or so back, that he had already been given the boot. This seems to have been mere wishful thinking. Still, even those who have little time for Pardew concede that it is the board, rather than the manager, that is more obviously culpable. Newcastle’s precarious position is the consequence, they argue, of a failure to invest in decent players, which has left the Geordies playing each week with half a youth team on the pitch. The summer was a particular disaster for Newcastle because at that point they were bidding for players from a position of strength, with genuine aspirations to being a top six or seven side and holding out the prospect of European football. What do they have to entice talented foreigners now, as they stare towards the abyss, other than money? And not even that much money. They were all terribly excited at the prospect of landing the Marseilles winger-cum-striker Loic Remy, but Arsenal are now in the hunt, too. Who do you suppose Remy will choose? The relegation-threatened outfit in the far northeast of England or the Champions League contenders in London — a team who, incidentally, Remy supported as a kid? How much extra would Newcastle have to pay in wages to compensate for not being Arsenal? I suspected Newcastle would not fare too well this season. But equally, and despite the fissuring at St James’ Park and the discontent of the players and fans, it seems to me highly unlikely that they will go down. This season the relegation battle is being contested by a good half of the teams in the division. It would take only two or three straight losses for West Ham or Stoke or Swansea to feel the breath of doom on the backs of their necks, and only two or three straight wins for Newcastle to feel assuaged by a certain degree of comfort. The smaller clubs tend to fare less well in the second half of the season and many will have injury crises of their own to contend with, just as Newcastle’s begins to improve a little. All that being said, I know what box I’d tick on the poll question at the front of one of the Newcastle fan sites: “Do you think we will qualify for Europe this season?” Always running before they can crawl." The man obviously hates Newcastle and the "Geordies" he repeatedly refers too. No problem with that plenty of others in the media do too. We get used to it. He is however, insulting towards Geordies, Newcastle and Newcastle fans. No need for that. Perhaps Mr.Liddle should keep his head down and avoid reporting on Newcastle for a while. The desperate tagging of Sir Bobby into that. Cringeworthy. And an out of date fan site has a European-based poll 6 months after we began a European campaign? Shock horror. He makes some fair points by all means, but he's still a cunt. 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Mole_Toonfan Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Who ever he is clearly has some sort of agenda you can tell by the sarcy tone of how he puts his word across, not even worth dignifying it by reading it in full. Do find these agenda-driven pieces a bit sad tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 What a fucking prick that journo is. Even worse that his editor approved that to print. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Liddle has always had a problem with us for some reason, was it him that claimed he was beaten up by Newcastle fans or was that someone else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yep - definitely written a couple of inflammatory articles about us in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Liddle has always had a problem with us for some reason, was it him that claimed he was beaten up by Newcastle fans or was that someone else? To be fair with the shite he writes that wouldn't be a massive surprise! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 What an abortion of an article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 What an abortion of an article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Shit article written that makes the journalist come across as having some vendetta against Newcastle. He sounds like a right piece of work to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Who the fuck is Ron Liddle ffs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The cunt needs Viagra to get it up, no wonder he's got a chip on his shoulder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Umpteenth time in saying this - but this is what happens when you have non-football men running the club. Horseplop. Citeh, Manure, Chelski, Ar*e all have non-football men running the club but they are all prepared to spend big. The rest like Reading Scumderland, Villa have the same non-footballing men but aren't aren't prepared to invest... same as Cashley. The game has changed.. it's now a business/billionaires playground. Rubbish They might have billionaire owners but they arent running the clubs they have the likes of Ivan Gazidis (arsenal) David Gill (manu) Daniel Levy (spurs) doing that, weve got a casino owner You mean Daniel Levy the businessman, David Gill the accountant and Ivan Gazidis the lawyer? I mean Daniel Levy He is managing director of ENIC International Ltd, an investment company, sports, entertainment and media group, and replaced Sir Alan Sugar as chairman of Tottenham in February 2001 after ENIC bought a controlling stake in the club. ENIC is controlled by Joseph Lewis. Levy was formerly a director of the Scottish football club Rangers, in which ENIC held a significant stake. ENIC has also in the past held stakes in other European football clubs including AEK Athens, Slavia Prague and Vicenza as well as non-football companies such as Warner Bros and Autonomy. David Gill was finance director at Manu in 97 and has been promoted several times to get where he is. Ivan Gazidis in 1994 he joined the founding management team of Major League Soccer, becoming in 2001 its deputy commissioner. He oversaw MLS's key strategic and business decisions and its marketing arm, Soccer United Marketing, of which he was president. He also helped promote the Mexican Football Federation and the CONCACAF Gold Cup All have football history before becoming chairman, what has fuck has Derek Llambias done apart from being drinking buddies with Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 If the article by Liddle was in the Times, don't forget that Murdoch's outfits have always tried to do us down - it was them that set up the NOTW scam that the 2 idiots from the previous Board fell into so easily and made us all look mugs... They take every opportunity to rubbish the club....that is probably why Liddle got the article through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Tbh I think we're only one or two signings off Pardew being found out. And by found out I mean everyone else will get it, he's not good enough. His position would be untenable at the majority of clubs if we lose to Reading, but I still wouldn't bet on the 2 clowns getting rid because they have begun to see what a mess they have made of it all and that their Oh so clever sacking of Hughton for Pardew has rebounded on them big time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 personally would give him the reading game to get a win, but i think the board will give him the villa game too excuses are over for the man, the team he's able to play should be winning games, if we don't win them and they don't sack then it tells you all you need to know imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Tbh I think we're only one or two signings off Pardew being found out. And by found out I mean everyone else will get it, he's not good enough. His position would be untenable at the majority of clubs if we lose to Reading, but I still wouldn't bet on the 2 clowns getting rid because they have begun to see what a mess they have made of it all and that their Oh so clever sacking of Hughton for Pardew has rebounded on them big time... I agree. However even if we get a win over Reading and pick up enough points to make us safe I still think there'll soon be a time when we've got a very competent starting line up and a few in reserve, and the football won't get any better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hatem in La Parisien today - "I want to help my team and my coach, with whom I get along great. We really want to fight for him." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hatem in La Parisien today - "I want to help my team and my coach, with whom I get along great. We really want to fight for him." Nice to hear he is still behind him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hatem in La Parisien today - "I want to help my team and my coach, with whom I get along great. We really want to fight for him." Obviously enjoys hoofball and being in a "lost" dressing room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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