Dr Venkman Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Like I said I've never seen anything like what happend in that second half yesterday ................. Let me refresh your memory then. Second half against WBA in his first season here. We were 3-0 up and we ended up shipping 4 goals in 45 mins which cost us 4 places in the league and probably a few million quid. I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure he made a few spastic changes in that game as well. Just in case anyone's under the illusion it was just bad luck yesterday. 'Magic' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Like I said I've never seen anything like what happend in that second half yesterday ................. Let me refresh your memory then. Second half against WBA in his first season here. We were 3-0 up and we ended up shipping 4 goals in 45 mins which cost us 4 places in the league and probably a few million quid. I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure he made a few spastic changes in that game as well. Just in case anyone's under the illusion it was just bad luck yesterday. Tell you what with a memory like that i'm astounded. We let in 3 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Despite all the evidence I see there are still quite a few saying he deserves more of a chance, or don't get rid just yet. I think we're on the brink of a precipice. If he doesn't turn it round we're relegated, half the team will want out. The only players definitely not leaving would be Cabaye and Debuchy, Debuchy because he just got here and Cabaye because he's not going to run out on his best mate just after he got here. A season later though and they'd both be agitating for a move too. As the better players leave and are replaced with lesser models can anyone see Pardew managing to get out of the Championship? He can't even get our current team playing football for more than the odd 20 minute spell in 3 games or so. Injuries and Europe as excuses just don't wash. Injuries can hinder a team and make them a bit disjointed but not to the extent we have witnessed. Pardews philosophy is not to get beat. He was a defender as a player and always looks to nullify the opposition. He is not very good at it and we, as a consequence, are constantly hampered in attacking play due to the focus on stopping the other team. Time and time again he has tried to defend a 1 goal lead. The last occasion just yesterday when at home, playing well and against a team that had never won away from home this season. Everyone but Pardew knew what was going to happen and it duly did. He has to go or we are fucked with a giant capital F. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Question is: at what point will he be sacked? Losing to Villa? When we are bottom three? When we are relegated? . ... (sly edit, because i've entertained this as a possibility) If we're not on track to replicating our last promotion campaign? (on a point comparison against Hughton's record) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 He has to go. I can't see any convincing argument for otherwise. Giving him 'time' has been done and because of his inadequacies further time will only be counterproductive. We can be fearful of who will come next; but to me its like 127 hours. Pardew is the crushing boulder of negativity; made heavier by the twats on top off him. We need to do something drastic and costly that will hurt us but at least there is a chance we may make it. Our arm is gone or tied behind our back with having Ashley as owner but as least we are alive to fight another day. Stay under this boulder and we die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Question is: at what point will he be sacked? Losing to Villa? When we are bottom three? When we are relegated? When it's too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Like I said I've never seen anything like what happend in that second half yesterday ................. Let me refresh your memory then. Second half against WBA in his first season here. We were 3-0 up and we ended up shipping 4 goals in 45 mins which cost us 4 places in the league and probably a few million quid. I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure he made a few spastic changes in that game as well. Just in case anyone's under the illusion it was just bad luck yesterday. Tell you what with a memory like that i'm astounded. We let in 3 goals. It felt like defeat so pardon the odd memory lapse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Such a strange set of circumstances to go from manager of the year to clueless buffoon in 8 months. Seems like it would be time for us to move on. 8 year contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Despite all the evidence I see there are still quite a few saying he deserves more of a chance, or don't get rid just yet. I think we're on the brink of a precipice. If he doesn't turn it round we're relegated, half the team will want out. The only players definitely not leaving would be Cabaye and Debuchy, Debuchy because he just got here and Cabaye because he's not going to run out on his best mate just after he got here. A season later though and they'd both be agitating for a move too. As the better players leave and are replaced with lesser models can anyone see Pardew managing to get out of the Championship? He can't even get our current team playing football for more than the odd 20 minute spell in 3 games or so. Injuries and Europe as excuses just don't wash. Injuries can hinder a team and make them a bit disjointed but not to the extent we have witnessed. Pardews philosophy is not to get beat. He was a defender as a player and always looks to nullify the opposition. He is not very good at it and we, as a consequence, are constantly hampered in attacking play due to the focus on stopping the other team. Time and time again he has tried to defend a 1 goal lead. The last occasion just yesterday when at home, playing well and against a team that had never won away from home this season. Everyone but Pardew knew what was going to happen and it duly did. He has to go or we are f***ed with a giant capital F. I agree with all you've said, bar one thing ie. Debuchy & Cabaye staying aboard the sunken ship, below sealevel in the event of relegation, for the reasons you state. Both have noteworthy claims in the French squad, in what is a WC qualification year ie. the business end Championship football (competing against sub-par teams, and out of the selection spotlight which PL and european football delivers) damages their hopes for selection. I think any comradery between the two would be placed on the backburner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 As others have said, can't believe this cunt is dodging the media bullet. Astounding that there's fuck about him being in trouble in today's rags. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Just gone through the lates google news about him. Stunning that there's nothing, absolutely nothing that suggests he should be sacked or should resing. No criticism at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 3/1 to be the next manager sacked in the premier league - lambert and jol are the only two with shorter odds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Next on sunday supplement, well the panel discussing him and the Toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I'm almost inclined to listen to this weeks Guardian podcast to hear what they say about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Tbh, I'm just hoping beyond hope that we'll only hear about his sacking once he's actually on his way, ala Adkins at Soton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 What is more painful than our league position is that we are seemingly not getting rid of Pardew for a long time. There's no knowing when the decay will end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 When you analyse the quality individually in our team it's a travesty we are where we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ7 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Next on sunday supplement, well the panel discussing him and the Toon Aye, the usual shite on that show. Didn't pinpoint any of the real problems. One even said this is our level, basically letting Pardew off. Sorry, but this squad is better than bottom 5 under a decent manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 We'll get nothing at Villa from what I saw of them yesterday and then lose the next two. If then he's not sacked we're down. He has to go. 2 wins in 18 games isn't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Give him the Barcelona squad and be would turn them into a negative team. No idea, never to blame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 in a way, the fans booing the substitutions should have been seen by cabaye and marv as support and appreciation for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 in a way, the fans booing the substitutions should have been seen by cabaye and marv as support and appreciation for them wouldn't have thought anyone would think it was the players getting the grief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Like I said I've never seen anything like what happend in that second half yesterday ................. Let me refresh your memory then. Second half against WBA in his first season here. We were 3-0 up and we ended up shipping 4 goals in 45 mins which cost us 4 places in the league and probably a few million quid. I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure he made a few spastic changes in that game as well. Just in case anyone's under the illusion it was just bad luck yesterday. Tell you what with a memory like that i'm astounded. We let in 3 goals. It felt like defeat so pardon the odd memory lapse Aye, you're right it did feel like a defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Like I said I've never seen anything like what happend in that second half yesterday ................. Like I said I've never seen anything like what happend in that second half yesterday ................. Let me refresh your memory then. Second half against WBA in his first season here. We were 3-0 up and we ended up shipping 4 goals in 45 mins which cost us 4 places in the league and probably a few million quid. I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure he made a few spastic changes in that game as well. Just in case anyone's under the illusion it was just bad luck yesterday. Let me refresh your memory then. Second half against WBA in his first season here. We were 3-0 up and we ended up shipping 4 goals in 45 mins which cost us 4 places in the league and probably a few million quid. I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure he made a few spastic changes in that game as well. Just in case anyone's under the illusion it was just bad luck yesterday. I was at that game, last game of the season and we were 3 nil up. We were so comfortable that we all decided to leave to watch who got relegated at half time. Next thing you know they had come back and we all couldn't believe it considering we'd pissed the first half without getting out of first gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Like I said I've never seen anything like what happend in that second half yesterday ................. Let me refresh your memory then. Second half against WBA in his first season here. We were 3-0 up and we ended up shipping 4 goals in 45 mins which cost us 4 places in the league and probably a few million quid. I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure he made a few spastic changes in that game as well. Just in case anyone's under the illusion it was just bad luck yesterday. Tell you what with a memory like that i'm astounded. We let in 3 goals. It felt like defeat so pardon the odd memory lapse Aye, you're right it did feel like a defeat. really pissed me off, had been all set to stay behind for the lap of honour but it totally changed the mood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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