Guest neesy111 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 We played a full team once before January in the EL ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The shitty football played week in, week out, is 100% his fact. No doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 League position aside, Pardew deserves sacking for the unbelievably rotten performances he produces despite the quality of players at his disposal. Absolutely criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Re: fatigue from so many games, the most games anyone has started in our squad is 40 (Cisse). Past that it's Santon with 38, then Gutierrez with 33 then Krul with 31. No other players have played more than 30 games. Yet at Chelsea, Cahill has started 53 games, Ivanovic 51 games, Cole 43, Hazard 43, Ramires 46, I could go on, the numbers remain similar throughout their entire squad. Knackered old Frank Lampard supposedly over the hill and no legs left has started 33 - only two of our players have played more games from the kick off. Blaming fatigue is an insult to our intelligence as fans and the worst thing is that plenty fall for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Seen nowt and heard nowt of how we played yesterday but assume his half time team talk had the usual effect of making us look useless and decided to bring Shola on at some point with Jonas doing fuck all as usual. He does not have a fucking clue how to finish teams off and bricks it when we go a goal up, stupid cowardly cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Go a goal up = give defensive instructions for the whole of the second half and f**k it up. Honestly, what a chancer. But, as I've maintained all along, the club is owned and run by exactly the same as Pardew. They are he and he is they. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Just watched his post match interview on NUFCtv. Amazing how things can change - everything he says just pisses me off. Same here - it's never his fault. The pitch, the wind, the alignment of the moon but not his lack of tactical awareness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Just going to ignore the fact that Spurs and Chelsea have quality throughout their squads, whereas our bench normally consists of James Perch and some tiny ginger lad? The comparisons aren't particularly fair. As for the proportion of blame conundrum. 50% Pardew, 50% players. It's verging on hilarious the lack of criticism the players actually playing the games have received this season despite their consistently shit performances. Obviously, Pardew has been equally as shite in his managing of the team, but even awful management can't account fully for our players' inability to string two passes together. Yes it can. Pardew's not interested in passing football, that accounts for it. This has been said a million times but bears repeating, when a few players are out of form that's not necessarily the managers fault, when most of them are, that's definitely the managers fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Re: fatigue from so many games, the most games anyone has started in our squad is 40 (Cisse). Past that it's Santon with 38, then Gutierrez with 33 then Krul with 31. No other players have played more than 30 games. Yet at Chelsea, Cahill has started 53 games, Ivanovic 51 games, Cole 43, Hazard 43, Ramires 46, I could go on, the numbers remain similar throughout their entire squad. Knackered old Frank Lampard supposedly over the hill and no legs left has started 33 - only two of our players have played more games from the kick off. Blaming fatigue is an insult to our intelligence as fans and the worst thing is that plenty fall for it. Even Oscar, the "fragile little Brazilian" that he is, is on 55 games or so this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The piss-poor fitness of the squad has riled me something fierce over the course of the season. It's been terrible from Spurs (h) and the Europa League isn't even nearly responsible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Lot of truth there, mind. The players consistently get built up to be something they're not on here partially due to force of habit and also to needlessly strengthen the already overwhelming case against Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Not seen this much contempt for a manager on here since Souness. He's mentioned in every thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Not seen this much contempt for a manager on here since Souness. He's mentioned in every thread. Never seen as many excuses since Souness either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Not seen this much contempt for a manager on here since Souness. He's mentioned in every thread. Never seen as many excuses since Souness either. I don't recall many excuses for Souness tbh. He was shite from the start and never looked like he got the team playing well at all, whereas Pardew at least has a 5th placed finish under his belt. Graeme's "supporters" were thinner in ranks than Pardew's, surely. AP is definitely out of time now but last season "earned" him this one; no argument he's squandered the opportunity and lost all but the most deranged/patient/apathetic of people : I was - and to the extent it seems pointless to sack a manger at this point in the season, still am - in favor of giving him this season. No more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Not seen this much contempt for a manager on here since Souness. He's mentioned in every thread. Never seen as many excuses since Souness either. I don't recall many excuses for Souness tbh. He was shite from the start and never looked like he got the team playing well at all, whereas Pardew at least has a 5th placed finish under his belt. Graeme's "supporters" were thinner in ranks than Pardew's, surely. AP is definitely out of time now but last season "earned" him this one; no argument he's squandered the opportunity and lost all but the most deranged/patient/apathetic of people : I was - and to the extent it seems pointless to sack a manger at this point in the season, still am - in favor of giving him this season. No more. I meant him giving excuses why every thing was not his fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I know Dekka has said that any manager should be allowed one bad season, but what if we have injuries next season? Does that mean that this season's pathetic excuses will be ok to trot out again if things don't go to script? I wonder how Ashley will feel about having a manager who's team plans fall apart with a few injuries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 What's definition of a bad season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Finishing bottom half with the French national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 What's definition of a bad season? looking down not up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Finishing bottom half with the French national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I'm baffled how people want to lay the blame at the players doors. Our whole team is playing badly, that is 100% at the managers door. It's the last defence of the indefensible I guess Load of nonsense. There's a fair few of us not defending Pardew in any way who also think the players are heavily to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I'm baffled how people want to lay the blame at the players doors. Our whole team is playing badly, that is 100% at the managers door. It's the last defence of the indefensible I guess Load of nonsense. There's a fair few of us not defending Pardew in any way who also think the players are heavily to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I know Dekka has said that any manager should be allowed one bad season, but what if we have injuries next season? Does that mean that this season's pathetic excuses will be ok to trot out again if things don't go to script? I wonder how Ashley will feel about having a manager who's team plans fall apart with a few injuries? I asked this the other day. If the injuries this season are purely down to luck, why will it change? Where would we be if Cisse, our one and only striker had picked up an injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I'm baffled how people want to lay the blame at the players doors. Our whole team is playing badly, that is 100% at the managers door. It's the last defence of the indefensible I guess Load of nonsense. There's a fair few of us not defending Pardew in any way who also think the players are heavily to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Not sure that keeping Pardew is tenable. And I speak as someone who never really hated Roeder (I know), turned on Souness and Allardyce later than most, and who still loooovvves Hughton; I despise him. I don't enjoy watching us play any more. Really haven't all season. Despite being in Europe and all, it's been a dire year and painful to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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