johnnypd Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think if he's not directly contributing through a goal or an assist you can come to that conclusion. At Swansea though he was pretty much doing that every week. He's a good goal-scoring midfielder to play off the front-man but Spurs already have VDV for that. Not sure they can play in the same side and VDV has way more to his game (they looked far more of a creative threat when he came on) despite sometimes being a bit lazy. Maybe he'll gradually become more of a deep lying playmaker as his legs go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Sandro did nothing for me to prove he's not overrated. Took around 20 minutes before HBA danced past him and the first thinghe could think of was to go for the knee once he was skinned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I nearly told Mrs. Haz I loved her. Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Sigurdsson is a bit like a more mobile and slightly better technically version of Nolan, with about 10x the fanfare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I thought Sandro & Sigurdsson both had a good 1st half tbh. The difference in quality between the latter and Modric though is ridiculous. VdV is also massively overrated, at least when I've seen him, he cannot pass or run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Sigurdsson is a bit like a more mobile and slightly better technically version of Nolan, with about 10x the fanfare. Slightly better technically? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Just seen the "shove" by Pardew (missed it during the game). I can't work out whether I'm surprised at the reaction it's got, but fuck me, he's essentially tapped him on the shoulder to get his attention and it's being treated as an act of aggression. If the linesman had just got on with it and I'd seen it as it happened, it wouldn't have even registered as problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I thought Sandro & Sigurdsson both had a good 1st half tbh. The difference in quality between the latter and Modric though is ridiculous. VdV is also massively overrated, at least when I've seen him, he cannot pass or run. As VDV has got older he seems to have practically become a second striker, some of the things that used to make him so highly rated have seemed to have disappeared. He's practically a poacher now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I thought Sandro & Sigurdsson both had a good 1st half tbh. The difference in quality between the latter and Modric though is ridiculous. VdV is also massively overrated, at least when I've seen him, he cannot pass or run. Van Der Vaart curly the ball beautifully and scores some cracking goals but it papers over the cracks of him not actually being a well-rounded player. certainly don't think he ever controls games. Them losing Modric is a nightmare. Sandro is an excellent player in my opinion and will show it this season. Sigurdsson strikes the ball better than most in the league and can move with it but he's certainly not going to be dictating the play or controlling games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Sigurdsson is a bit like a more mobile and slightly better technically version of Nolan, with about 10x the fanfare. That sounds like quite a good player actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Replacing Modric and Adebayor will definitely be the key for Tottenham's season, if they do it successfully then they can challenge for top 4 if not then i could see them finishing outside the top 6. That's how big a difference those two made to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Canny vid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 How do you post direct links to the photos on here when they are protected? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Just seen the "shove" by Pardew (missed it during the game). I can't work out whether I'm surprised at the reaction it's got, but fuck me, he's essentially tapped him on the shoulder to get his attention and it's being treated as an act of aggression. If the linesman had just got on with it and I'd seen it as it happened, it wouldn't have even registered as problem. It was a push, he was out of order. Looked much worse from where I was sat. By the letter of the law, I'm sure you are right, he was out of order. But the angle I have available makes it look like nothing more than a nudge to get his attention. Certainly doesn't look like there's any aggression in the push. I bet a high five would hurt more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Just seen the "shove" by Pardew (missed it during the game). I can't work out whether I'm surprised at the reaction it's got, but fuck me, he's essentially tapped him on the shoulder to get his attention and it's being treated as an act of aggression. If the linesman had just got on with it and I'd seen it as it happened, it wouldn't have even registered as problem. It was a push, he was out of order. Looked much worse from where I was sat. By the letter of the law, I'm sure you are right, he was out of order. But the angle I have available makes it look like nothing more than a nudge to get his attention. Certainly doesn't look like there's any aggression in the push. I bet a high five would hurt more. I was in the posh seats about 20 yards away, it looked bad in real time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think it was more the act itself than if it actually caused any pain or not (which it obviously didn't), it's just really disrespectful to nudge/push anyone. A touchline ban would be harsh but rules are rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 How I've missed Steven Taylor's pre-match fist pump. Watching that reminded me of Benson off Mike Bassett. 1:55... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/08/20/newcastle-2-1-tottenham-pardew-switches-formation-ben-arfa-excels-in-both-systems/ I think it was more the act itself than if it actually caused any pain or not (which it obviously didn't), it's just really disrespectful to nudge/push anyone. A touchline ban would be harsh but rules are rules. That's the one rule in every sport I've ever played or watched. You cannot touch officials aggressively and if you do so, the penalties will be harsh. Pardew violated and will be correctly punished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think it was more the act itself than if it actually caused any pain or not (which it obviously didn't), it's just really disrespectful to nudge/push anyone. A touchline ban would be harsh but rules are rules. Wenger pushed the 4th official a few years ago and got away with an £8k fine iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I'm not saying it wasn't stupid, but I've seen an article saying the FA should throw the book at him/make an example of him etc. You would think he inflicted pain on the guy going by some peoples' reactions. IMO he should receive whatever the standard fine is for placing your hands on an official is, and then be forgotten about. It was a silly mistake that wouldn't have been thought twice about had it not been on air/in the public eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/08/20/newcastle-2-1-tottenham-pardew-switches-formation-ben-arfa-excels-in-both-systems/ Don't agree with that tbh, Ben Arfa is restricted in 4-4-2 he has to start so deep with his runs and it's a lot harder to be effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Does Pardew have any previous for touchline shenanigans/getting sent off etc? I remember he squared up to Wenger but he was cleared of all charges from that, is there owt else? Could work in his favour if not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 so----- I only saw some of first half and highlights as at a wedding do--- was it just luck? were we worth the win? They were better first half, we switched to 4-3-3 second and played better. Boiled down to the fact we had match winners/game changers and they didn't imo. hopefully we can fluke another good season, and the mackems can earn another s*** one then. Just wait until we actually play somebody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Does Pardew have any previous for touchline shenanigans/getting sent off etc? I remember he squared up to Wenger but he was cleared of all charges from that, is there owt else? Could work in his favour if not. I guess they'll just give him the shortest possible ban anyway, just for symbolic reasons. They probably don't want to punish him realise, but they know they can't let him off completely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Just watching the highlights again, Pardew blatantly practices those fist-pumping-air moments in the mirror like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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