Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa joins AS Roma then Lyon

[Skirge]

Clean sheets vs Spuds and Chelski with MYM & Willo at CB and now he can't get a game at CB. Fkn foaming

[arnonel]

Debuchy's better. It's not unfair.

 

Huh?

 

Dont think anyone is debating who should be playing RB.

[basjen]

Fucking disgrace him behind Taylor. I actually didn't think there was a chance of this.

 

Thanks, buddy 

[Tooj]

http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/mapou-v-taylor-contest/

 

Mapou v Taylor Should Be No Contest

 

Let’s talk football, rather than balance sheets.

 

I’ve been following Newcastle for forty years and we’ve been pretty awful for most of that period, apart from a brief spell under Kevin Keegan and Sir Bobby Robson.

 

Coincidentally, the times when we’ve looked a really good side is when we’ve had a manager who was talented, strong and had a vision over how we should play.

 

Keegan, bless him, wasn’t suited to building a club beyond the first team, whilst Sir Bobby had the misfortune of being sacked in favour of the Graeme Souness – who was himself close to being sacked by Blackburn at the time.

 

The manager is the most important man at a club because he picks the team. Even if he doesn’t get to pick the players (thankfully the case at Newcastle, otherwise we’d have Bent, Tomkins & Downing here) , he can destroy the confidence of those we have.

 

This brings me neatly onto the case of Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa. Admittedly, this lad had an absolute shocker in the first half against Everton but that doesn’t mean he is a poor player. He is 24 and will probably be our captain in the future if Pardew doesn’t destroy him in the meantime. This is a boy who captained Montpelier to the French League title a couple of years ago – that kind of responsibility isn’t given lightly to a young player and is probably one of the reasons that we bought him.

 

In the absence of Coloccini, Yanga-Mbiwa came back into the side against Liverpool, having been dropped in favour of Williamson previously. Against Suarez & Sturridge, arguably the best pair of strikers in the league, he was having a good game before getting sent off when conceding a penalty. It happens – there isn’t a defender out there who doesn’t occasionally receive a red card in similar circumstances.

 

He wasn’t available against the Mackems but again came back to have a strong game against Man City in the League Cup, our team only conceding in extra time. We then beat Chelsea 2-0 and Tottenham 1-0 (note the strength of the opposition) with him in the side before he was inexplicably dropped against Norwich (at home). The lad was then frozen out of the starting eleven until Debuchy received a 3 match ban for his brain freeze against West Brom and he was played out of position at right back, once again against Manchester City.

 

Once Debuchy came back into the side, guess who was dropped  between Williamson, Taylor and Yanga-Mbiwa when it came to choosing the centre halves? Yes, the most talented out of the three, who also happens to be the youngest and easiest to tell he isn’t playing.

 

Williamson has done exceptionally well this season, but he doesn’t have half the ability that Yanga-Mbiwa does and he doesn’t represent the team’s future. As for Steven Taylor, what has he done to get picked in front of the youngster apart from having a stroppy agent (former ‘chief scout’ under Freddy Shepherd, Willie Mckay) who made his displeasure known when his client wasn’t playing.

 

The point is that managers have to look beyond just the next couple of games and back those that have talent and will only get better. Williamson (who I admire for his resilience) and Taylor should be behind Yanga-Mbiwa in the pecking order, not in front. If all three were to be sold tomorrow, Yanga-Mbiwa would command by far the highest fee – he’s the main asset.

 

Last year, Pardew inexplicably chose Perch over Anita and it is only because the latter has such a fantastic attitude that there wasn’t a huge bust-up as a result. Perch is now playing at the right level in the Championship after a £400k move – what does that tell you about Pardew’s judgement?

 

When he was West Ham manager, he didn’t think Tevez and Mascherano were good enough to get into an otherwise awful side! Today, he consistently brings on Shola ahead of Cisse – only one of them is worth £10m in the market whilst the other won’t play for another Premiership side.

 

Thankfully, Pardew has no say whatsoever over transfer targets but the man is still capable of demoralising the talent that Graham Carr identifies and manages to get in through the gates.

 

This is a real issue and will cost us talented players like Yanga Mbiwa (and HBA, before Cabaye’s sale) if they become disillusioned with life at the club.

 

Some can argue that Williamson should be in the side ahead of everyone else based on performances alone (although personally, I’d still play Yanga-Mbiwa, based on talent) but Taylor? You have to be joking.

 

Frankly, Pardew is fortunate that Yanga-Mbiwa is such a respectful player – anyone else might have decked his manager on being told he was back on the bench against Norwich in favour of the limited chest thumper, Steven Taylor.

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http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/mapou-v-taylor-contest/

 

Mapou v Taylor Should Be No Contest

 

Let’s talk football, rather than balance sheets.

 

I’ve been following Newcastle for forty years and we’ve been pretty awful for most of that period, apart from a brief spell under Kevin Keegan and Sir Bobby Robson.

 

Coincidentally, the times when we’ve looked a really good side is when we’ve had a manager who was talented, strong and had a vision over how we should play.

 

Keegan, bless him, wasn’t suited to building a club beyond the first team, whilst Sir Bobby had the misfortune of being sacked in favour of the Graeme Souness – who was himself close to being sacked by Blackburn at the time.

 

The manager is the most important man at a club because he picks the team. Even if he doesn’t get to pick the players (thankfully the case at Newcastle, otherwise we’d have Bent, Tomkins & Downing here) , he can destroy the confidence of those we have.

 

This brings me neatly onto the case of Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa. Admittedly, this lad had an absolute shocker in the first half against Everton but that doesn’t mean he is a poor player. He is 24 and will probably be our captain in the future if Pardew doesn’t destroy him in the meantime. This is a boy who captained Montpelier to the French League title a couple of years ago – that kind of responsibility isn’t given lightly to a young player and is probably one of the reasons that we bought him.

 

In the absence of Coloccini, Yanga-Mbiwa came back into the side against Liverpool, having been dropped in favour of Williamson previously. Against Suarez & Sturridge, arguably the best pair of strikers in the league, he was having a good game before getting sent off when conceding a penalty. It happens – there isn’t a defender out there who doesn’t occasionally receive a red card in similar circumstances.

 

He wasn’t available against the Mackems but again came back to have a strong game against Man City in the League Cup, our team only conceding in extra time. We then beat Chelsea 2-0 and Tottenham 1-0 (note the strength of the opposition) with him in the side before he was inexplicably dropped against Norwich (at home). The lad was then frozen out of the starting eleven until Debuchy received a 3 match ban for his brain freeze against West Brom and he was played out of position at right back, once again against Manchester City.

 

Once Debuchy came back into the side, guess who was dropped  between Williamson, Taylor and Yanga-Mbiwa when it came to choosing the centre halves? Yes, the most talented out of the three, who also happens to be the youngest and easiest to tell he isn’t playing.

 

Williamson has done exceptionally well this season, but he doesn’t have half the ability that Yanga-Mbiwa does and he doesn’t represent the team’s future. As for Steven Taylor, what has he done to get picked in front of the youngster apart from having a stroppy agent (former ‘chief scout’ under Freddy Shepherd, Willie Mckay) who made his displeasure known when his client wasn’t playing.

 

The point is that managers have to look beyond just the next couple of games and back those that have talent and will only get better. Williamson (who I admire for his resilience) and Taylor should be behind Yanga-Mbiwa in the pecking order, not in front. If all three were to be sold tomorrow, Yanga-Mbiwa would command by far the highest fee – he’s the main asset.

 

Last year, Pardew inexplicably chose Perch over Anita and it is only because the latter has such a fantastic attitude that there wasn’t a huge bust-up as a result. Perch is now playing at the right level in the Championship after a £400k move – what does that tell you about Pardew’s judgement?

 

When he was West Ham manager, he didn’t think Tevez and Mascherano were good enough to get into an otherwise awful side! Today, he consistently brings on Shola ahead of Cisse – only one of them is worth £10m in the market whilst the other won’t play for another Premiership side.

 

Thankfully, Pardew has no say whatsoever over transfer targets but the man is still capable of demoralising the talent that Graham Carr identifies and manages to get in through the gates.

 

This is a real issue and will cost us talented players like Yanga Mbiwa (and HBA, before Cabaye’s sale) if they become disillusioned with life at the club.

 

Some can argue that Williamson should be in the side ahead of everyone else based on performances alone (although personally, I’d still play Yanga-Mbiwa, based on talent) but Taylor? You have to be joking.

 

Frankly, Pardew is fortunate that Yanga-Mbiwa is such a respectful player – anyone else might have decked his manager on being told he was back on the bench against Norwich in favour of the limited chest thumper, Steven Taylor.

 

Hard to disagree with anything in there to be honest.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Totally agree to be honest, quite surprised that Pardew has preferred Taylor.

[Ronaldo]

The fact they used the Liverpool game, man.

[Teasy]

Wouldn't be a rounded argument if they ignored the Liverpool game.

[Guest bimpy474]

Rather have Mapou up front than Shola on Saturday.

[Jordan]

Has to be back v Chelsea.

[Wullie]

He won't feature whilst Stevie's available.

[Jordan]

He won't feature whilst Stevie's available.

I never want to see him play another game for us.

[samag]

I am sure he will want to move on in the Summer if he cannot get a game in front of Taylor ....unreal

[thomas]

I am sure he will want to move on in the Summer if he cannot get a game in front of Taylor ....unreal

lmao imagine being such a shit manager you make french club chairmen sound like footballing geniuses.

[duo]

Has to be back v Chelsea.

Bet he's not though...that's Pardew for you.

[Jordan]

Has to be back v Chelsea.

Bet he's not though...that's Pardew for you.

It's gutting. In all fairness Pardew shouldn't even be making a decision for the Chelsea game but unfortunately he's untouchable.

[alexf]

Has to be back v Chelsea.

 

Even if he was, we will inevitably get battered down there anyway and he will probably get the blame. Or Ben Arfa, he normally gets the blame.

[LRD]

What must he do to get a game? Wasting his career here.

[Ikon]

What must he do to get a game? Wasting his career here.

[Pilko]

Speaks volumes about Taylor that he keeps getting linked with QPR and Crystal Palace etc. That's his level, the cunt is dreadful.

 

Mapou is already better than him and will continue to develop... assuming he gets a game at some point.

[sugoinufc]

What must he do to get a game? Wasting his career here.

 

Our best CB with huge potential - but pardews 4th choice!

 

[Ryan_Taylor]

Starting to wonder if he's real or not.

[Pilko]

Starting to wonder if he's real or not.

 

a bit like when we first signed Craig Moore.

[SiLvOR]

What has this bloke done to Pardew?

[Skeletor]

Same thing Marveaux has done probably.