TRon Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Where McClaren has failed, I think, is on the character front. He's not been able to engage the squad or to make them want to play for him. At times, in fairness to him, and albeit in fleeting moments earlier in the season he's had us playing some ok football. The problem has been in the resolve of the squad to keep going when the tide turns. There's not enough character in the squad and he's not been able to create any form of backbone in them. If you compare him to someone like a Klopp or a Keegan whose personality resonates and lifts up a whole club, or indeed city then there's a huge and fundamental difference. The side effect of appointing a warm, motivator type is that they are generally quite 'emotional' beings who will, on occasion, get the hump and need managing themselves. They'll also need to believe that everyone, from top to bottom, is engaged in the 'project'. God, I fucking hate that term, in relation to football. When you work for a cold, calculated money man who is not motivated by sentiment or indeed motivated at all other than survival then where do you get your motivation from? That leaves either a young coach full of energy (like a Howe at Bournemouth/Neville type character) or an older, perhaps safer alternative, who can drill a system/playing regime into the squad which would make us effective/harder to beat. I guess Moyes falls into the latter in terms of character but I'm not sure he inspires much other than organisation. He certainly wouldn't be the lift we'd necessarily get from a positive influencer like a KK. This city is driven by emotion. Half the battle is the feel good factor. Robson brought it, KK brought it and, to a far lesser extent, Chris Hughton did through his professionalism/just downright decency. I don't think David Moyes brings it in the same way I didn't think SMc did, all those months ago. There's a real skill in making people perform for you and the key is them feeling like they are actually wanted/needed/valued. If you didn't personally choose that player (as has been the case with many of the new signings under SMC - see Saivet, Doumbia etc) then the chances of the player actually performing have to be far reduced. This all points to the recruitment process needing to be based on the ability of the applicant to motivate, to be a 'man manager' and to be able to be a force for cohesion across the club including fanbase etc. I don't think I know of anyone out there who could do this, as of now. Edit - if TL/DR - then the team is a reflection of the manager. That's why we're a souless mess at the minute. Robson's and KK's had heart, energy and positivity in abundance. Good post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Brendan rogers will be in charge on or before Wednesday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Voted Shearer. However would like him to get the chance under proper ownership. With Mike Ashley still here, anyone that could save our asses again will do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Some loons on Twitter actually want Pearson in, I'd rather keep McClaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Brendan rogers will be in charge on or before Wednesday <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=6021"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/01/interesting.gif"></a> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Rogers lost his way at Liverpool. Nice football but some of the signings were atrocious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Rogers lost his way at Liverpool. Nice football but some of the signings were atrocious. Did he have full say? I thought Benteke was the first time that he was allowed to get his man? Not exactly a success story But I was under the impression they had a similar transfer set up to us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Seems to me that Rodgers was very much a victim of his own success in many ways. Not saying he would be my first choice, but coming second in 13-14 was a huge overachievement which he then suffered for when the team's performance dipped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookidge Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'd take Rodgers every day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Imagine the size of the envelopes he'd need for our lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'd actually go for pearson short term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I think Rodgers would be a passable long-term appointment but I don't think he'd keep us up. Can't see unmotivated players buying in to his management speak mumbo jumbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Some loons on Twitter actually want Pearson in, I'd rather keep McClaren. Theres a growing number tweeting paddy power asking for prices on Craig Brown. Allegedly hes 25/1 down from 100/1 since this morning. Can you fucking imagine the players reaction to that knacka turning up sounding worse than the Geordie on Castle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Some loons on Twitter actually want Pearson in, I'd rather keep McClaren. Theres a growing number tweeting paddy power asking for prices on Craig Brown. Allegedly hes 25/1 down from 100/1 since this morning. Can you fucking imagine the players reaction to that knacka turning up sounding worse than the Geordie on Castle? He's 75 FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Craig Brown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Bookies latest Moyes, David 15/8 Pearson, Nigel 9/4 Rodgers, Brendan 9/2 Benitez, Rafa 5/1 Redknapp, Harry 12/1 Di Matteo, Roberto 18/1 Gourvennec, Jocelyn 20/1 De Boer, Frank 20/1 Laudrup, Michael 20/1 Galtier, Christophe 25/1 Dyche, Sean 25/1 Fournier, Hubert 25/1 Sherwood, Tim 25/1 Favre, Lucien 25/1 Bruce, Steve 33/1 Hoddle, Glen 33/1 Monk, Garry 33/1 Jokanovic, Slavisa 33/1 Warburton, Mark 33/1 Klinsmann, Jurgen 33/1 Howe, Eddie 50/1 Pulis, Tony 50/1 Vieira, Patrick 50/1 Carver, John 50/1 Shearer, Alan 66/1 McCoist, Ally 66/1 Di Canio, Paolo 100/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Steve Bruce good odds : ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Some horrifying names on that list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Should be Rafa only Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 The only person who I think could come in and give everybody a lift from day 1 would be Rafa Benitez. Do I think he'd come here? I think he would if the offer was right for him and I think we're capable(have the means) of putting a good enough package to him but unsure we've got the intelligence at the club to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Craig Brown. Found the source of this USA Sports Today ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Fucking hell if Benitez really wanted the job the conversation should be as easy as: "Hi Rafa, what would you like?" .. "Ok, agreed, see you tomorrow" I'd be amazed if they had the brains to realise such a great opportunity though. Probably think he'd be too difficult to deal with. To thick to realise that if the manager/head coach is easy to deal with and basically a lap dog then the team of players will also treat him like a lap dog and do fuck all on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 There's not a chance Rafa's name has even come up in that boardroom. No way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Ffs. Any reason why Pearson is num 2? Where did any strong links for him come from anyways? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Ffs. Any reason why Pearson is num 2? Where did any strong links for him come from anyways? English, will never do better in terms of club, cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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