The College Dropout Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Couldn't really give a s*** if he leaves. Like De Jong and Cabella, he's not had much chance to properly develop but I haven't seen much worth persevering with anyway. We should have just kept Ben Arfa. f***ing tossers. Agree. Although we've got to remember the players do train every day. Fans might scream give him a chance, but if he's absolute s**** in training he's never going to get in. Manager's credibility with the players would go down the pan if the lad that tarts around all week gets a game regardless I bet Shola was amazing in training.. Ben Arfa was probably s**** though. Yeah but it's one thing being crap in training if you can point to all the goals and assists you've provided, it's another if you're new and struggling for game time. Anyway again we've no earthly idea how he is in training, good or bad, would never happen obviously but I wish they televised training matches so we could actually see for ourselves what the manager sees. I've heard Sergio Aguero is the most inspiring in training. Must be able to tell he has superb touch, technique when striking, finishing etc. but keeps a lot in the tank. Would imagine Hatem's the same. 20 minutes off the bench with those 2 lads a few times you would see top quality. On the other end - Shola seems a nice bloke and a top pro that fooled a number of managers down the years. Likewise for someone that rarely plays Obertan looks to be in fantastic shape 365, actually has a lot of skill and technical ability so could look amazing in training. Thauvin isn't in that HBA bracket of talent not to apply himself in training. He has probably deserved more Premiership game time just off hope and transfer fee. But his performance at West Ham & Watford was among the worst i've seen. Only plus point was his willingness to get on the ball and try. Physical or technical attributes? Absolutely none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It would be interesting to know (never happen) how NUFC go about integrating foreign imports into their squad. How has Thauvin been managed insofar as getting used to the culture, climate, city, etc. Has he been buddied up with some of his French team-mates? Does Gouffran give him life coaching? I know clubs generally hire handlers / interpreters / nannies, etc to sort out new players from abroad but I somehow imagine our particular version of this process is utter shite. If my suspicions were correct, it would mean people who require support and aren't as adaptable when moving to a new country might be further ostracised (especially when abused by fans for tenuous reasons in comparison to other players). Or he could just be bad at football. Which begs the questions why did we sign him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 All your worse fears are probably right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Aye, most likely. Needs more Garlic & Snail Thursdays at the training ground cafeteria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Farrell sweet prince. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I feel for this kid. Victim of circumstance iyam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Farrell sweet prince. I read that as Ferret sweet prince , and thought that he does have ferret features Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Far too much shit in the squad to justify getting rid of him iyam. We're still sitting on Gouffran AND Obertan ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Questionable buy to begin with. Not in form and made Ligue 1 worst 11 team last season. Once bought, not given proper go in poorly set up team with rookie striker and on the same side as a poor full back. A fine recipe for money down the drain. That said, he's not really applied himself enough to have much sympathy for him. If some money back means we can keep Sissoko and Perez, he's got to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It's not quite Ben Arfa levels of frustrating but it's the Hugo Viana mark for players that really deserve a chance in their correct position. Maybe I'm placing too much emphasis on this after being at his home debut against Northampton and the performance he put in that day but I'll be hugely disappointed if this actually happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Really bizarre. He's looked pretty good in the games i saw him play? Delivered some cracking crosses and just generally got about. Mcclaren didnt want to put Aarons in either when fit though. Whole thing is odd for a side that could do with a left winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Really bizarre. He's looked pretty good in the games i saw him play? Delivered some cracking crosses and just generally got about. Mcclaren didnt want to put Aarons in either when fit though. Whole thing is odd for a side that could do with a left winger. Did you see West Ham or Watford? Did you see Northampton and perhaps Villa only? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 In the squad for West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 So Marseilles don't even want to pay for him on loan? What a bunch of cheap bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Questionable buy to begin with. Not in form and made Ligue 1 worst 11 team last season. Once bought, not given proper go in poorly set up team with rookie striker and on the same side as a poor full back. A fine recipe for money down the drain. That said, he's not really applied himself enough to have much sympathy for him. If some money back means we can keep Sissoko and Perez, he's got to go. WTF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 So Marseilles don't even want to pay for him on loan? What a bunch of cheap b******s. Of course not. We'd have to be idiots to do this deal. Oh wait... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 In the squad for West Ham. Recovered form his 'knock' sharpish once SDJ was mortally wounded.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'd be tempted to chuck him in for Perez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Was just checking to see if he had ever played for Nice ( or had remarkable form against them) in desperate hope we may be on for a swap with HBA, when noticed he was signed by Lille from Bastia in 2013, doesn't appear to have played for them and was then loaned back to Bastia making 16 appearances and scoring 7 goals. He was then signed by Marseille (67 appearances, 13 goals). Does this mean the lad has form? Doesn't fancy the move, pick up the fee and then chuck the dummy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Was just checking to see if he had ever played for Nice ( or had remarkable form against them) in desperate hope we may be on for a swap with HBA, when noticed he was signed by Lille from Bastia in 2013, doesn't appear to have played for them and was then loaned back to Bastia making 16 appearances and scoring 7 goals. He was then signed by Marseille (67 appearances, 13 goals). Does this mean the lad has form? Doesn't fancy the move, pick up the fee and then chuck the dummy. The initial loan back was part of the transfer agreement with Bastia. Then when he returned to Lille the manager he wanted to play for, Rudi Garcia had quit so he requested a transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Was just checking to see if he had ever played for Nice ( or had remarkable form against them) in desperate hope we may be on for a swap with HBA, when noticed he was signed by Lille from Bastia in 2013, doesn't appear to have played for them and was then loaned back to Bastia making 16 appearances and scoring 7 goals. He was then signed by Marseille (67 appearances, 13 goals). Does this mean the lad has form? Doesn't fancy the move, pick up the fee and then chuck the dummy. The initial loan back was part of the transfer agreement with Bastia. Then when he returned to Lille the manager he wanted to play for, Rudi Garcia had quit so he requested a transfer. By request a transfer do you mean act the cunt and refuse to train? Lille didn't want to sell to Marseille at all as it was pretty obvious they had tapped him up and he was trying to force a move to earn himself a better deal. Possibly why a lot of fans over their aren't too fond of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'd be tempted to chuck him in for Perez. Same. Perez needs a rest imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 As far as Twitter sources go he is the greatest mind so I could believe that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Thauvin looked up for it aswell when he came on against Villa,he was putting himself about. He's obviously a confidence player and one bad performance seems to knock him back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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