Guest bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yeah because Ba refused to play on the wing so we shafted Cisse out wide for a handful of appearances and had nowhere near the same effect. Then we sold Ba, instead of putting Cisse back through the middle, he gave Shola the nod and his excuse after the match was Ba's absence midweek had spoilt the gamelan prepared and Shola was the nearest like for like replacement. Baffling. Exactly, it was properly weird that one. It's even more wierd when you think he would change formation mid game. So with 48 hours notice he can't but 20, 40, 60 mins in to a game he can He didn't need to change the system just stick Cisse through the centre and a winger out wide. We knew that, it's why he did and excuses he came up with that were discussing G, keep up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Pardew is tragic man. All these discussions are just reminding me about how annoying things are going to be this season. He just honestly doesn't know what he's doing, because imo he doesn't really believe in the players at his disposal. He literally knows nothing about them, and is incapable of appreciating what they are good at. This guy played Perch at DM ahead of Anita repeatedly last season. He continued to play Jonas ahead of Marveaux, even though Jonas was absolutely rotten, and contributed nothing to our forward play. Gouffran kept getting pulled early for Shola, who despite coming on at 60 mins looked more lethargic than everyone else on the pitch. It's just sad. Very very sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Pardew is tragic man. All these discussions are just reminding me about how annoying things are going to be this season. He just honestly doesn't know what he's doing, because imo he doesn't really believe in the players at his disposal. He literally knows nothing about them, and is incapable of appreciating what they are good at. This guy played Perch at DM ahead of Anita repeatedly last season. He continued to play Jonas ahead of Marveaux, even though Jonas was absolutely rotten, and contributed nothing to our forward play. Gouffran kept getting pulled early for Shola, who despite coming on at 60 mins looked more lethargic than everyone else on the pitch. It's just sad. Very very sad. Reading that and agreeing with every part (well maybe not 2nd para) makes me sad....and i'm backing him next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 What other teams play a genuine 4-3-3 in the EPL out of interest? I mean with 3 genuine strikers? We aren't talking of playing with 3 genuine strikers 1 striker 2 wing forwards. More like a 4-2-3-1 then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Pardew is tragic man. All these discussions are just reminding me about how annoying things are going to be this season. He just honestly doesn't know what he's doing, because imo he doesn't really believe in the players at his disposal. He literally knows nothing about them, and is incapable of appreciating what they are good at. This guy played Perch at DM ahead of Anita repeatedly last season. He continued to play Jonas ahead of Marveaux, even though Jonas was absolutely rotten, and contributed nothing to our forward play. Gouffran kept getting pulled early for Shola, who despite coming on at 60 mins looked more lethargic than everyone else on the pitch. It's just sad. Very very sad. Reading that and agreeing with every part (well maybe not 2nd para) makes me sad....and i'm backing him next season <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=14220"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/huh-run.gif"></a> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thing is, if we're honest. Anita hasn't looked like a EPL holding midfielder, Marveaux hasn't looked like a player who can bother his arse for 90 mins and we've all seen Gouffran run out of puff after 70 mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thing is, if we're honest. Anita hasn't looked like a EPL holding midfielder, Marveaux hasn't looked like a player who can bother his arse for 90 mins and we've all seen Gouffran run out of puff after 70 mins. That's a downright lie, he's never played past 65 mins, Then it's Shola time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Pardew is tragic man. All these discussions are just reminding me about how annoying things are going to be this season. He just honestly doesn't know what he's doing, because imo he doesn't really believe in the players at his disposal. He literally knows nothing about them, and is incapable of appreciating what they are good at. This guy played Perch at DM ahead of Anita repeatedly last season. He continued to play Jonas ahead of Marveaux, even though Jonas was absolutely rotten, and contributed nothing to our forward play. Gouffran kept getting pulled early for Shola, who despite coming on at 60 mins looked more lethargic than everyone else on the pitch. It's just sad. Very very sad. Reading that and agreeing with every part (well maybe not 2nd para) makes me sad....and i'm backing him next season <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=14220"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/huh-run.gif"></a> Top 8 is my prediction Pards will bounce back!....i hope! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 No chance will he want to win the cup this year, that would mean Europe again, and we all know what the cuntbag thinks of Europe. Good point. He hardly disrespected Europe? He gave it a good go in terms of team selections bar the first few opening games. He just liked the Europe excuse when our leagues results were damaged. I'm sure Laudrup will pop in the Europe factor excuse on multiple occasions down the line this season on the back of a loss following a Thursday night game. Just an easy thing to give the press, expected. Just seen your reply. All I can do is leave what I suspect both reefatoon and I were referring to. http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2013/05/12/3974043/i-dont-care-if-arsenal-beat-us-4-0-pardew-elated-after-newcastle- I will make sure that we are well prepared for next season and thank God we are not in the Europa League again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's an unbelievable quote from Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Perhaps things will pick up this season because Pardew earned his spurs last season by getting us over the line. Pardew with well earned spurs > Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 World class tosspot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's an unbelievable quote from Pardew He's a dick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he prefers the 4-2-3-1 because in his mind it's more defensively solid. You've got 2 DMs in there and the 3 tracking back behind the ball too. Unfortunately it leaves Cisse isolated up front and our side fairly toothless. If Jonas is one of the 3 then we have 8 out of 11 players whose primary role or quality is defence. If you play 4321 then the striker has to be like a bull or pacey...Cisse is neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Who knows, maybe we'll have that lucky lucky season with no injuries, no long cup runs, big teams who have an off day while playing us, little teams just playing like little teams against without those 10/10 goalkeeper performances and yes, that bit of magic and we'll end up in the top 5 again. Would be interesting how the forum would react. Return of Pardiola? Realistically, he's gone by November and we'll see Kinnear vs. Mourinho there the first day of the month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's an unbelievable quote from Pardew tbh I'm not so sure its all that uncommon a view among managers and owners in England, few sides have ever bothered to take it seriously, its just perceived as getting in the way since it doesn't have the financial rewards to really make it worthwhile see also cups; FA and League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 What formation was Cisse used in with Freiburg? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 These were his quotes from that season ticket pullout in the Journal today. http://i43.tinypic.com/2db5qht.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/16c036a.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 What formation was Cisse used in with Freiburg? Played as a lone striker most of the time iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The burning issues bit is pretty positive tbf but talk is cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The burning issues bit is pretty positive tbf but talk is cheap. Yup heard so much of it recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 "Any man who must say 'I am the manager' is no true manager" - Tywin Lannister Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The Pardew on tactics bit at the bottom. That's sounds just like Souness when he was here. Yes we need to create more chances, but a formation that frees up your better players is vital. Forget 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 !!. We can't Alan because whatever one you use, it's so defensive we fail to create the more chances you say we need to. One is negating the other you plank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 He'll go down in history though with his revolutionary 901 formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Whatever formation we play, the lack of cohesion and movement will be evident and the end result is the same. Long balls to a front man with little support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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