Guest bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 World class tosspot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's an unbelievable quote from Pardew He's a dick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I think he prefers the 4-2-3-1 because in his mind it's more defensively solid. You've got 2 DMs in there and the 3 tracking back behind the ball too. Unfortunately it leaves Cisse isolated up front and our side fairly toothless. If Jonas is one of the 3 then we have 8 out of 11 players whose primary role or quality is defence. If you play 4321 then the striker has to be like a bull or pacey...Cisse is neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Who knows, maybe we'll have that lucky lucky season with no injuries, no long cup runs, big teams who have an off day while playing us, little teams just playing like little teams against without those 10/10 goalkeeper performances and yes, that bit of magic and we'll end up in the top 5 again. Would be interesting how the forum would react. Return of Pardiola? Realistically, he's gone by November and we'll see Kinnear vs. Mourinho there the first day of the month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's an unbelievable quote from Pardew tbh I'm not so sure its all that uncommon a view among managers and owners in England, few sides have ever bothered to take it seriously, its just perceived as getting in the way since it doesn't have the financial rewards to really make it worthwhile see also cups; FA and League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 What formation was Cisse used in with Freiburg? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 These were his quotes from that season ticket pullout in the Journal today. http://i43.tinypic.com/2db5qht.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/16c036a.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 What formation was Cisse used in with Freiburg? Played as a lone striker most of the time iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The burning issues bit is pretty positive tbf but talk is cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The burning issues bit is pretty positive tbf but talk is cheap. Yup heard so much of it recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 "Any man who must say 'I am the manager' is no true manager" - Tywin Lannister Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The Pardew on tactics bit at the bottom. That's sounds just like Souness when he was here. Yes we need to create more chances, but a formation that frees up your better players is vital. Forget 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 !!. We can't Alan because whatever one you use, it's so defensive we fail to create the more chances you say we need to. One is negating the other you plank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 He'll go down in history though with his revolutionary 901 formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Whatever formation we play, the lack of cohesion and movement will be evident and the end result is the same. Long balls to a front man with little support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thing is, if we're honest. Anita hasn't looked like a EPL holding midfielder, Marveaux hasn't looked like a player who can bother his arse for 90 mins and we've all seen Gouffran run out of puff after 70 mins. Now that's just sweeping generalisation bollocks. Anita has hardly played, and when he has, he hasn't played his usual role. Marveaux gets dropped every time he has a decent game. As Bimpy said, Gouffran never played past the 70 minute mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Create more chances and score more goals? Might help if you let the team play higher up the pitch and not allow the main striker to be isolated 24/7. When Cisse arrived at the club it wasn't just the 4-3-3 that keeps getting mentioned it was the mindset the team had and how many players we had forward when in possession. Cisse constantly scored goals because he consistently had Ben Arfa, Ba and Cabaye within 10 yards of him giving him passes in and around the box. For some reason Pardew went away from it as soon as we lost a game. We actually have better players now, but unfortunately we have a manager who is scared of his own shadow and won't allow them to get forward in numbers to score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thing is, if we're honest. Anita hasn't looked like a EPL holding midfielder, Marveaux hasn't looked like a player who can bother his arse for 90 mins and we've all seen Gouffran run out of puff after 70 mins. Now that's just sweeping generalisation bollocks. Anita has hardly played, and when he has, he hasn't played his usual role. Marveaux gets dropped every time he has a decent game. As Bimpy said, Gouffran never played past the 70 minute mark. Anita is not and never will be a PL holding mid. Marveaux is absolute quality but goes missing far too ofen. Gouffran fades badly, but not enough to warrant his lack of minutes compared to Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thing is, if we're honest. Anita hasn't looked like a EPL holding midfielder, Marveaux hasn't looked like a player who can bother his arse for 90 mins and we've all seen Gouffran run out of puff after 70 mins. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 "Any man who must say 'I am the manager' is no true manager" - Tywin Lannister Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Create more chances and score more goals? Might help if you let the team play higher up the pitch and not allow the main striker to be isolated 24/7. When Cisse arrived at the club it wasn't just the 4-3-3 that keeps getting mentioned it was the mindset the team had and how many players we had forward when in possession. Cisse constantly scored goals because he consistently had Ben Arfa, Ba and Cabaye within 10 yards of him giving him passes in and around the box. For some reason Pardew went away from it as soon as we lost a game. We actually have better players now, but unfortunately we have a manager who is scared of his own shadow and won't allow them to get forward in numbers to score goals. Too much prozone/prozac take your pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I'm always hearing this about Marveaux going missing, don't see how he's had enough minutes on the pitch to decide that. Plus some of the players that have been on the pitch in his place have largely veered from shit to anonymous in their performances, so comparatively there's not much difference except Marv hardly plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thing is, if we're honest. Anita hasn't looked like a EPL holding midfielder, Marveaux hasn't looked like a player who can bother his arse for 90 mins and we've all seen Gouffran run out of puff after 70 mins. Now that's just sweeping generalisation bollocks. Anita has hardly played, and when he has, he hasn't played his usual role. Marveaux gets dropped every time he has a decent game. As Bimpy said, Gouffran never played past the 70 minute mark. Anita is not and never will be a PL holding mid. Marveaux is absolute quality but goes missing far too ofen. Gouffran fades badly, but not enough to warrant his lack of minutes compared to Jonas. I disagree on Anita..... Arteta and Britton seem fine but i'll let that one go. As for Marveaux bit hard to be consistent when you are hardly ever starting and as for Gouffran with Remy's signing he shouldn't be starting so i don't see it as an major issue at least as big as it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I'd have Marveaux in our lineup ahead of Jonas, Tiote and Anita, don't get me wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Aye i know you would was just responding to the comment is all. Which he was as well, quite frankly even if he does go missing you lose more by benching him than you gain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thing is, if we're honest. Anita hasn't looked like a EPL holding midfielder, Marveaux hasn't looked like a player who can bother his arse for 90 mins and we've all seen Gouffran run out of puff after 70 mins. Yep. Gouffran will get fitter, the part about Marveaux is weapons grade bull shit. He hasn't been given a decent run of games to get match fit and looks far from lazy. And whatever type of player Anita looks, he's a better footballer than Tiote and should have had his place from last Christmas onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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