Cronky Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 A possible picture here is that Ashley wants to be a bit more hands on, and wants a football man as his right-hand man to advise him. Trouble is, looking at it from the bottom upwards, Kinnear appears to be in a very powerful position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 carr seems to be the key factor in all this. carr has rarely let Ashley down, and he and Kinnear know each other well so hopefully JFK will show him a little respect. Ashley will just look Kinnear square in the eye and say, "I'm so in love with you. I'll be forever blue. That you give me no reason. You know you're making me work so hard. That you give me no, that you give me no, that you give me no, that you give me no sooooo-ooo-uuu-l." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-joe-kinnear-drove-derek-1967425? Newcastle's Derek Llambias quit after Joe Kinnear pulled the plug on Douglas transfer 19 Jun 2013 22:32 New director of football had never heard of FC Twente defender. Who has played in Champions League. And been in Holland squad Who he? Kinnear didn't know Douglas from Adam Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias quit in a row over a player to become the first victim of Joe Kinnear's controversial reign. The Mirror can reveal Llambias resigned just hours after being forced to pull the plug on signing FC Twente defender Douglas. Kinnear, appointed as director of football on Tuesday, claimed he had never heard of the Brazilian player. Now, the Magpies' highly-respected chief scout Graham Carr could be the next to go. It is believed Carr is considering his future after being told he must report to Kinnear. Llambias is understood to have spent months lining up a Bosman-style free transfer for 25-year-old centre-half Douglas, who was linked with Newcastle as far back as last summer, and a deal was in place. But Llambias - called "Llambezee" by Kinnear in one of the radio interviews carried out to mark the former Toon manager's return to St James' Park in a new role - did a sudden U-turn on Tuesday night and was forced to tell Douglas that the deal was off following Kinnear's intervention. Kinnear - whose appointment has caused astonishment - sounded out former FC Twente boss Steve McClaren, because he was not aware of Douglas. This even though the player has been at one of Holland's leading clubs for six years, turning out for them in the Champions League against teams such as Inter Milan and Tottenham and as they reached the last eight of the Europa League in 2010-11. Hours later, Llambias offered his resignation. It is clear he did not feel he could carry on working under Kinnear. Llambias was one of manager Alan Pardew's big supporters and backed him when owner Mike Ashley became concerned last season as Newcastle flirted with relegation. Carr is Newcastle's ace talent spotter and has been responsible for unearthing some of their most successful signings, but Kinnear has insisted he now is in charge of transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Such extensive football knowledge from our Director of Football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-joe-kinnear-drove-derek-1967425? Newcastle's Derek Llambias quit after Joe Kinnear pulled the plug on Douglas transfer 19 Jun 2013 22:32 New director of football had never heard of FC Twente defender. Who has played in Champions League. And been in Holland squad Who he? Kinnear didn't know Douglas from Adam Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias quit in a row over a player to become the first victim of Joe Kinnear's controversial reign. The Mirror can reveal Llambias resigned just hours after being forced to pull the plug on signing FC Twente defender Douglas. Kinnear, appointed as director of football on Tuesday, claimed he had never heard of the Brazilian player. Now, the Magpies' highly-respected chief scout Graham Carr could be the next to go. It is believed Carr is considering his future after being told he must report to Kinnear. Llambias is understood to have spent months lining up a Bosman-style free transfer for 25-year-old centre-half Douglas, who was linked with Newcastle as far back as last summer, and a deal was in place. But Llambias - called "Llambezee" by Kinnear in one of the radio interviews carried out to mark the former Toon manager's return to St James' Park in a new role - did a sudden U-turn on Tuesday night and was forced to tell Douglas that the deal was off following Kinnear's intervention. Kinnear - whose appointment has caused astonishment - sounded out former FC Twente boss Steve McClaren, because he was not aware of Douglas. This even though the player has been at one of Holland's leading clubs for six years, turning out for them in the Champions League against teams such as Inter Milan and Tottenham and as they reached the last eight of the Europa League in 2010-11. Hours later, Llambias offered his resignation. It is clear he did not feel he could carry on working under Kinnear. Llambias was one of manager Alan Pardew's big supporters and backed him when owner Mike Ashley became concerned last season as Newcastle flirted with relegation. Carr is Newcastle's ace talent spotter and has been responsible for unearthing some of their most successful signings, but Kinnear has insisted he now is in charge of transfers. As expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 If "true" Getting a bit of a taste of his own medicine with KK eh. Funny old world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Doubt it was the Douglas thing. Yes, Kinnear's obviously senile but his mis-pronunciation was clearly pre-meditated and Llambias clearly wasn't on board with the idea from the beginning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Man, if we lose out on Douglas on a free because of this senile buffoon I'll be livid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Pardew may have been caught in the middle of a power struggle between Ashley and managing director Derek Llambias, who resigned yesterday. Llambias felt his reputation was in danger if he stayed at a club that seems to lurch from one controversy to another. A row with Kinnear over the possible signing of Holland international Douglas may have contributed to his departure. Newcastle were close to completing a move for the 6ft 4in central defender on a free transfer from FC Twente when they pulled out of the deal on Tuesday. It is thought Kinnear may have blocked the move on the basis that he did not know enough about the player, even though he is widely recognised as one of the best players in his position in Holland. Llambias, it is understood, had spent three months working on the deal and Douglas, 25, was due to fly to Newcastle this week to complete the formalities. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2344690/Joe-Kinnear-happy-Alan-Pardew-run-Newcastles-team-picture-Derek-Llambias-departs.html#ixzz2WhYr7W1M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Doubt it was the Douglas thing. Yes, Kinnear's obviously senile but his mis-pronunciation was clearly pre-meditated and Llambias clearly wasn't on board with the idea from the beginning. Aye, this may have just tipped the scales. Nice of Joe to come in and discard a player we've courted for years. Wonder who he has lined up as an alternative? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 You know what this calls for? Corporate team building exercises. Two hours for Ashley, Kinnear, Carr, and Pardew to build a bridge across the Tyne with 52 popsicle sticks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 3 different sources for the Kinnear blocks all but agreed Douglas move story now.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 3 different sources for the Kinnear blocks all but agreed Douglas move story now.. But how is that possible? I mean some guy on another forum said otherwise! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midstoon Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Great so pardew wants tompkins and bent average and english. I bet these 2 have'nt been recommended by Carr :-\ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midstoon Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Where are these Bent and Tompkins links? On that daily mail link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's key that John Cross wrote that article in the Mirrror. Definitively bollocks. He isn't even their North East reporter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's key that John Cross wrote that article in the Mirrror. Definitively bollocks. He isn't even their North East reporter. when combined with Sky Sports and the Mail saying very similar then it starts to look true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's key that John Cross wrote that article in the Mirrror. Definitively bollocks. He isn't even their North East reporter. when combined with Sky Sports and the Mail saying very similar then it starts to look true It starts to look like Sky Sports website, renowned for being full of shit, reported something this morning and a load of tabloids desperate to jump on anything negative stole it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/exclusive-newcastles-star-talentspotter-on-brink-as-joe-kinnear-sparks-walkout-8665925.html Really, really hope not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's key that John Cross wrote that article in the Mirrror. Definitively bollocks. He isn't even their North East reporter. when combined with Sky Sports and the Mail saying very similar then it starts to look true It starts to look like Sky Sports website, renowned for being full of s***, reported something this morning and a load of tabloids desperate to jump on anything negative stole it. This... Sky sports are just sensationalist bullshitters that for some reason people think carry more weight, I can't stand sky sports and out them up there with the daily mail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/exclusive-newcastles-star-talentspotter-on-brink-as-joe-kinnear-sparks-walkout-8665925.html Really, really hope not. Jesus christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Martin Hardy again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-joe-kinnear-drove-derek-1967425? Newcastle's Derek Llambias quit after Joe Kinnear pulled the plug on Douglas transfer 19 Jun 2013 22:32 New director of football had never heard of FC Twente defender. Who has played in Champions League. And been in Holland squad Who he? Kinnear didn't know Douglas from Adam Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias quit in a row over a player to become the first victim of Joe Kinnear's controversial reign. The Mirror can reveal Llambias resigned just hours after being forced to pull the plug on signing FC Twente defender Douglas. Kinnear, appointed as director of football on Tuesday, claimed he had never heard of the Brazilian player. Now, the Magpies' highly-respected chief scout Graham Carr could be the next to go. It is believed Carr is considering his future after being told he must report to Kinnear. Llambias is understood to have spent months lining up a Bosman-style free transfer for 25-year-old centre-half Douglas, who was linked with Newcastle as far back as last summer, and a deal was in place. But Llambias - called "Llambezee" by Kinnear in one of the radio interviews carried out to mark the former Toon manager's return to St James' Park in a new role - did a sudden U-turn on Tuesday night and was forced to tell Douglas that the deal was off following Kinnear's intervention. Kinnear - whose appointment has caused astonishment - sounded out former FC Twente boss Steve McClaren, because he was not aware of Douglas. This even though the player has been at one of Holland's leading clubs for six years, turning out for them in the Champions League against teams such as Inter Milan and Tottenham and as they reached the last eight of the Europa League in 2010-11. Hours later, Llambias offered his resignation. It is clear he did not feel he could carry on working under Kinnear. Llambias was one of manager Alan Pardew's big supporters and backed him when owner Mike Ashley became concerned last season as Newcastle flirted with relegation. Carr is Newcastle's ace talent spotter and has been responsible for unearthing some of their most successful signings, but Kinnear has insisted he now is in charge of transfers. Maybe Llambias can now do a Keegan and sue the club for 25 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 If Kinnear's gonna block deals like Douglas, I guess theres no point in Carr anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 'that he has given Kinnear complete control at the club' fucking hell man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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