geordie_b Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Good signing for them this season, its crazy for the 3 seasons after though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Defoe's never been prolific. Only managed more than 14 PL goals once. 1 goal in the 14 games he played 13-14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Good shot on him, remember him scoring a few from outside the box. He might do alright for them this season if he's still got the legs to get into decent positions but a 3.5 year deal is madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Defoe's never been prolific. Only managed more than 14 PL goals once. 1 goal in the 14 games he played 13-14. He started 3 premier league games ffs I don't particularly like Jermain Defoe, he's obscenely one dimensional and only performs well in certain formations, but he's a perfectly serviceable striker for Sunderland, and a pretty massive improvement over Jozy Altidore. For this season at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Make no mistake. He's a good signing for them, money aside. Defoe scores goals, and he will for them. He'll score enough goals to keep them up. That will pay for the transfer in itself. Short term move obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 He has 47 in over 130 games since he moved back to Spurs from Portsmouth. He's not this born natural finisher he's claimed to be by the media, he'll still score against us mind but he isn't that good. Is that including sub appearances? It's not bad at all regardless, but then again he offers next to nowt other than goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Since the start of the 2010-11 season he has scored 27 PL goals in 95 appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Defoe's never been prolific. Only managed more than 14 PL goals once. 1 goal in the 14 games he played 13-14. He started 3 premier league games ffs I don't particularly like Jermain Defoe, he's obscenely one dimensional and only performs well in certain formations, but he's a perfectly serviceable striker for Sunderland, and a pretty massive improvement over Jozy Altidore. For this season at least. your making my point for me. its been 18 months -2 years since he played and score regular at premier league level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Don't think that makes any difference at all, him not being given a chance doesn't exactly say he's not good enough anymore. When given the opportunity, he's scored goals at a decent rate, and hasn't looked like dropping off. He's just too one dimensional for a top-half team so ends up doing well somewhere and then failing into the fringes when a team is competing for greater things. He's Mike Ashley's ideal striker. 11 goals in 14 starts for Toronto in a period that Toronto were shit and that he wanted away & struggled with injuries. Seems reasonable to me. So far this season, Sunderland have 18 goals in the PL, 4 scored by Adam Johnson, 4 scored by Steven Fletcher. I'm pretty sure Jermain Defoe at 32 will be an improvement upon that. Not that I think he's all that much better than Fletcher, he's just not made of glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Aye I wouldn't know or bother with how many starts he has, but as Dropout said he's only scored more than 14 once in his career. In any case he's clearly better than Altidore and if he keeps them up they'll consider it a success and rightly so but that's not my argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Don't think that makes any difference at all, him not being given a chance doesn't exactly say he's not good enough anymore. When given the opportunity, he's scored goals at a decent rate, and hasn't looked like dropping off. He's just too one dimensional for a top-half team so ends up doing well somewhere and then failing into the fringes when a team is competing for greater things. He's Mike Ashley's ideal striker. 11 goals in 14 starts for Toronto in a period that Toronto were shit and that he wanted away & struggled with injuries. Seems reasonable to me. So far this season, Sunderland have 18 goals in the PL, 4 scored by Adam Johnson, 4 scored by Steven Fletcher. I'm pretty sure Jermain Defoe at 32 will be an improvement upon that. Not that I think he's all that much better than Fletcher, he's just not made of glass. yeah fair enough- I was not saying hes not good enough btw. Id have him here for the rest of this season tbh. Im just not as certain as some people , I keep reading- 'he'll get them the goals they need' etc. Im simply not convinced - even his best ever form would equate to around 6 goals the rest of this season.- Is that enough for them? can he match or better his best ever form with them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Mackem Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Defoe is quite a greedy player and in a team that creates f*** all, if he doesn't start to score straight away, their fans will turn on him pretty quickly. FFS We never even turned on Altidore ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Defoe is quite a greedy player and in a team that creates f*** all, if he doesn't start to score straight away, their fans will turn on him pretty quickly. FFS We never even turned on Altidore ! Consider the amount of racial abuse your good strikers have to put up with he should be thankful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Darren Bents mam wasn't it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 11 goals in 14 starts for Toronto in a period that Toronto were shit and that he wanted away & struggled with injuries. Seems reasonable to me. Wouldn't surprise me if Dozy gets something similar. Bradley Wright-Phillips has 27 in 32, and Robbie Keane 19 in 29. Shite league, and has to be hard to get back up to PL level. He will score maybes 4 goals the rest of the season, keep them up then be shite next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 11 goals in 14 starts for Toronto in a period that Toronto were shit and that he wanted away & struggled with injuries. Seems reasonable to me. Wouldn't surprise me if Dozy gets something similar. Bradley Wright-Phillips has 27 in 32, and Robbie Keane 19 in 29. Shite league, and has to be hard to get back up to PL level. He will score maybes 4 goals the rest of the season, keep them up then be shite next year. And if he had found difficulty scoring for Toronto, you'd be holding it against him too. Not sure what more he could've done in MLS all things considered. He's been gone from the Premier League less than a year. He won't have forgotten how to play at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 He looks old as fuck on the photos outside the stadium, must be jet lag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 11 goals in 14 starts for Toronto in a period that Toronto were shit and that he wanted away & struggled with injuries. Seems reasonable to me. Wouldn't surprise me if Dozy gets something similar. Bradley Wright-Phillips has 27 in 32, and Robbie Keane 19 in 29. Shite league, and has to be hard to get back up to PL level. He will score maybes 4 goals the rest of the season, keep them up then be shite next year. Yes, scoring in the MLS is no guarantee of success in any other league, but short of scoring 35 goals, there's not much else Defoe could have done to show that he's still doing what he's always done. He's been gone for a very minimal amount of time, nothing has changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Any fee confirmation? It can't have been 14m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 They've swapped him for Altidore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 If he's lost his pace he's done imho Not sure tbh. A lot of his goals are instinctive finishes in the box or 'touch and bang' from anywhere within 20 yards and between the goal posts. Think he'll get goals if he's first choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 If he gets the service he'll score goals, no doubt about it. Bit the mackems don't leave their own half so not sure if he'll be much good to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 There has been plenty spoken about Defoe's move back to England, the knight in shining armour to save Sunderland from their current malaise. Their total of 18 goals this season is 'beaten' only by Aston Villa's 11, and 22% of those have come in defeats. Gus Poyet's side need less of a spark and more of a raging fire. Unfortunately, there appears to be a good deal of revisionism over Defoe's form. This is a player who moved to the relative backwaters of Major League Soccer after scoring two goals in his last 1262 Premier League minutes. If he keeps up that rate back in England, he'll score 19 league goals over the entire length of his three-and-a-half year contract, assuming he plays every minute of every match. He also failed to score in his last 414 minutes for Toronto. Furthermore, Defoe is a striker who feeds off a partner. With Steven Fletcher now perennially out of favour and Danny Graham comprehensively not good enough, it falls on Connor Wickham to be the support act. Sue me for being underwhelmed. http://www.football365.com/big-weekend/9646107/Big-Weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/rI7XvnS.png A season (league only) lasts 3420 mins so the number sluts can work out his average though it appears to be good. For context, Remy got 14 in 2097 mins for us last year. Also worth noting is their insane home fixtures http://i.imgur.com/A0xWPmE.png If he's motivated he'll score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 it would seem to me to be spending a lot on wages to not really solve the ultimate problem they have they have- they don't create chances and Defoe won't work in the current set up Poyet plays. Is he likely to change that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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