morpeth mag Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Cheaper to get Michael Owen back and get him to link play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 With a good manager it wouldn't be beyond the realms of fantasy that the service from our midfielders improves and Cisse and Bent score goals.... together. That's just the problem though I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Don't worry lads our Pardew and Kinnear can transform any of our current players into any position I remember when they transformed Steve Howey from a striker to a centre half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Bent will take shola's place in the match day squad. don't think he'll be a starter - initially anyway. pardew has talked about competition for cisse rather than support. Simonthec Untbird has made up that story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Bent won't come to sit on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 don't think he'd have much option if he wants to move to another premership club. many teams have a better striker, and the ones who don't couldn't afford his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I have no problem that Bent and Cisse could get plenty of goals forming a good partnership BUT it depends on good managing (impossible with this pillock) and Bent not waving a sick note too often Bent won't come to sit on the bench Then HE has to make sure he's producing. Nor is he likely to get the same money as he was on either He ISN'T a big enough name to make demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 What's this I read on FB about him signing on Monday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I'm saying that's how it'll be sold to him coming, yeah can then get relegated to the bench. Can't see how Cisse and Bent can form a partnership at all tbh. Neither can hold the ball up, both want to be doing the finishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Bent and Cissé, the new Pardew disaster 2013/14 (refusing to see the obvious) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Barren Dent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Bent and Cissé, the new Pardew disaster 2013/14 (refusing to see the obvious) Don't see the problem, Cissé is mint on the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I actually wouldn't mind a 4-4-2 if it meant Sissoko going wide and Jonas being fucked off. At least we'd have 11 players on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I actually wouldn't mind a 4-4-2 if it meant Sissoko going wide and Jonas being f***ed off. At least we'd have 11 players on the pitch. I wouldn't mind that if it was Gouffran and Bent/Cisse up front not Bent and Cisse, he's more suited. Still think that wastes Ben Arfa and Cabaye isn't mobile enough imo but it is a viable option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I like Gouffran as he's quick and works hard but he creates fuck all and isn't half the finisher Bent is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I like Gouffran as he's quick and works hard but he creates fuck all and isn't half the finisher Bent is. Yep. Gouffran's a very intelligent player, but without goals he's in danger of becoming our Ali Aliadiere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I like Gouffran as he's quick and works hard but he creates f*** all and isn't half the finisher Bent is. Yep. Gouffran's a very intelligent player, but without goals he's in danger of becoming our Ali Aliadiere. Gouffran did score 3 goals in 14 premier league matches last season, playing almost entirely out wide. While not an amazing return that isn't all that bad for a man changing country and in a team playing really poorly. He also created a few chances with his running such as against Chelsea and put a hell of a lot of work rate in. While he wasn't as good as Sissoko was at times, he probably was pretty consistently decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 We saw with Ba and Cisse how quickly the goals dry up when played out wide. I reckon Gouffran would score a fair few if he was played more central. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Knowing Pardew we'll probably play Bent out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Bent and Cisse both wide either side of Shola duuur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 "Try" and keep it tight, and hopefully some magic from HBA will get the ball in to the box a couple of times per game, a couple of natural scorers in there might score from these few chances and win us the game 1-0 or 2-1. Do not move when HBA has the ball, hold your positions just in case if Hatem loses it. FFS!! Give me a razor blade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I hope we don't see Bent and Cisse in tandem, but I'm not very confident. Pardew does seem to favour tall-ish strikers, and has a history of trying to get them to play together. A Bellamy-Beardsley type can make a big difference, but we don't seem to get linked with that sort very often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 The Bent argument is pretty straight forward. He's an excellent finisher, and that doesn't really change no matter how s*** the team he is playing in. The problem is that that is ALL he does. If you are going to play Bent, you have to shape your whole front six around him, because otherwise, he might as well not bother turning up He won't do anything else, he won't drop back and fetch the ball, he won't hold it up, he won't lead the line, he won't do any of that, but if you want a striker who will play off the last defender, and apply the finishing touch, he's your man. The problem is that football has changed an awful lot the last few years, and players like Bent are very much out of fashion. That's why Lambert didn't use him. He's not an idiot. When we were struggling for points, he dropped a player we'd paid 18m for and replaced him with a kid we'd bought from Belgium for far less. There was lots of p*ss take from the likes of that brainless turd Lawrenson about what the f*** are we doing yada yada yada, but it was quite clearly the right decision, and the sign of a manager who was progressive rather than regressive. Darren Bent's problem now is that most, if not all, of the top flight sides have moved on, and will not play a brand of football which will suit him. He hasn't become s*** at what he does. The problem is that hardly anyone wants a player who does what he does any more. not a massive bent fan, but i have a slight issue with this bit, brummie. you stayed up by the skin of your teeth. would it have been just as clear if you had gone down by a point, or a goal? and, given that benteke may well leave, are you completely sure getting rid of bent is the right thing for your club? the next 7m quid striker you pull in may not have the same impact as the guy chelsea and spurs are trying to take away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Villa's problems last season were more to do with their naivety at the back then scoring goals from whenever I saw them play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Aston 'better GD than Newcastle' Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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