SUPERTOON Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Personally thought he was poor, any dangerous attacks where usually with him out of position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Always maintained he fucking loves - and is good at - defending. It's just a proper, modern full back also needs to be able to go forward and he's turboshite in that regard. I feel a bit sorry for him in that sense, because he could be so much better if he was able to improve just one half of his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outremont Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 He’s the left sided CB in a 3, not a modern day LB. The game has evolved so fast that 10 years back when he was breaking through it wasn’t so much of an issue. I don’t get the hate in this forum for him. He was immense against Watford only to be let down by Almiron for their leveller. Top defender and deceptively quick. Worth a squad place this season and maybe next before shipping off. Meanwhile he’s a Geordie so show him some respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Not the strongest start I've ever seen a poster make. "Immense" against Watford? "Top defender"? He'll be gone in the summer, and rightfully so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, Outremont said: He’s the left sided CB in a 3, not a modern day LB. The game has evolved so fast that 10 years back when he was breaking through it wasn’t so much of an issue. I don’t get the hate in this forum for him. He was immense against Watford only to be let down by Almiron for their leveller. Top defender and deceptively quick. Worth a squad place this season and maybe next before shipping off. Meanwhile he’s a Geordie so show him some respect. He’s better than Keegan anarl… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Left exposed. Did ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 15 hours ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said: Always maintained he fucking loves - and is good at - defending. It's just a proper, modern full back also needs to be able to go forward and he's turboshite in that regard. I feel a bit sorry for him in that sense, because he could be so much better if he was able to improve just one half of his game. I thought he was a decent defender until I saw how much better Targett looked in the same position, and also what a difference having someone like Trippier can make at full back. Dummett looks a bit slower than he used to a couple of years back, not sure if injuries and age have took their toll, but right now we have to be grateful he's there as an option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Be handy if he could stay fit for a few games above all else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outremont Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, Pardiola said: Not the strongest start I've ever seen a poster make. "Immense" against Watford? "Top defender"? He'll be gone in the summer, and rightfully so. Yep, ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, Outremont said: Yep, ok. Why would he be gone? He will want to stay as a squad player and will be a good one to have since he will I imagine be very happy to be still playing for his home town club. We won't suddenly have 2 teams of 'purples' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 He was massively, massively exposed because of ASM. I don't understand it as ASM was tracking back quite a bit in the first half for Manquillo. We shouldn't offer him a new deal. Ability alone I would keep him as a squad player but he's never fit for more than 10 games a season and he just takes up a squad place and wages. I'd buy Targett and keep Manquillo as back up and focus on other positions for the rest of the summer. Obviously if we can also bring in a top class LB as well then great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, OverThere said: Why would he be gone? He will want to stay as a squad player and will be a good one to have since he will I imagine be very happy to be still playing for his home town club. We won't suddenly have 2 teams of 'purples' Contract's up in June and hopefully won't be renewed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I wouldn't hesitate to renew his contract, assuming he's happy as emergency cover. He covers two positions and he's not a terrible player. Perfectly decent third choice full-back. Certainly wouldn't begrudge him turning one down, like. Would imagine he'd be first choice LB for most Championship teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 up to Howe but anyone who has been here more than 4 years - I would seriously think about letting go - especially if in the 30's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I wouldn't hesitate to renew his contract, assuming he's happy as emergency cover. He covers two positions and he's not a terrible player. Perfectly decent third choice full-back. Certainly wouldn't begrudge him turning one down, like. Would imagine he'd be first choice LB for most Championship teams. If he could be fit for 75% of the season then aye. But it's more like 25% and it's a waste of a squad place especially in the summer when we can go and get players who are not always broken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Nah, pointless renewing. Sign Targett, we’ll have Burn, Lewis & Manquillo who can cover. Just a waste of a squad place on someone who has proven he can’t stay fit for half a season and isn’t even that good to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 He profiles as exactly the type of player we're going to let go. Good servant in his day but aging and declining. His spot should go to a younger player with the potential to develop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I like Dummett, he loves the club, always gives his all and he is a good defender. We all know his shortcomings as a footballer and I think this should be his last season at the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 might sound harsh, but I fucking hate him (as a footballer, not as a person) and can't wait until he gets peddled him being our benchmark is a big reason Matt Targett looked like prime Cafu on his debut. He's never, ever been good enough. people argue he's a good defender, and does the fundamentals well, but he's shit scared of the ball, has zero technique and offers no attacking threat whatsoever. because he's so limited he gets held to the lowest possible standard, the opposite of someone like ASM, basically. not to mention he's a perma crock. thanks for everything Paul, but down to the Champo you go son. Bruce will probably sign him. which says everything you need to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Renewing his contract would be insane, he is hardly ever fit and when fit, well, he’s shite basically. He needs to move on for his own career’s sake and we cannot and never ever should again be limiting ourselves to bang average players like Dummet, as squad players or not. We owe him fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Actually one of the main reasons he should be let go is because he's never fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, HUGZ said: might sound harsh, but I fucking hate him (as a footballer, not as a person) and can't wait until he gets peddled him being our benchmark is a big reason Matt Targett looked like prime Cafu on his debut. He's never, ever been good enough. people argue he's a good defender, and does the fundamentals well, but he's shit scared of the ball, has zero technique and offers no attacking threat whatsoever. because he's so limited he gets held to the lowest possible standard, the opposite of someone like ASM, basically. not to mention he's a perma crock. thanks for everything Paul, but down to the Champo you go son. Bruce will probably sign him. which says everything you need to know. So might be reading between the lines here but that's a no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, HUGZ said: might sound harsh, but I fucking hate him (as a footballer, not as a person) and can't wait until he gets peddled him being our benchmark is a big reason Matt Targett looked like prime Cafu on his debut. He's never, ever been good enough. people argue he's a good defender, and does the fundamentals well, but he's shit scared of the ball, has zero technique and offers no attacking threat whatsoever. because he's so limited he gets held to the lowest possible standard, the opposite of someone like ASM, basically. not to mention he's a perma crock. thanks for everything Paul, but down to the Champo you go son. Bruce will probably sign him. which says everything you need to know. This exactly, he has always been one of the least comfortable on the ball of any player I can remember watching... he simply doesn't want the ball and when he does get it he wants rid of it as quickly as he can... he has stolen a living from football, actually not just a living but, a wonderful living... more money than most of us will ever earn in our lifetimes. There a loads of professional players like this though... If we need to play with wingbacks I would prefer to see Targett on the left and Manquillo on the right (hopes his injury is minor), the thought of reverting to Krafth or Ritchie is horrifying! However, while we are without Trippier we need to rethink how the midfield is shaped. If the rumour is true that approx 6 weeks is the duration of the injury we need to get through West Ham, Brentford, Chelsea and Crystal Palace in that time... 5 points form those 4 matches would be a decent haul in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I think stealing a living is a bit harsh. I don’t think there’s a single fan that will argue he’s a quality footballer. He’s genuinely awful on the ball but positionally in defence he’s generally always been good, it feels like it’s dropped off a bit this season. His hoofing of the ball is appalling but he’s been symptomatic of who we’ve been as a club for 14 years, looking to achieve the bare minimum. However, he always gives everything, loves the club and has almost never put in a really poor defensive performance. Yes, he needs to go but I don’t think he’s stolen a living as a footballer even though he can’t kick a football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, HUGZ said: might sound harsh, but I fucking hate him (as a footballer, not as a person) and can't wait until he gets peddled him being our benchmark is a big reason Matt Targett looked like prime Cafu on his debut. He's never, ever been good enough. people argue he's a good defender, and does the fundamentals well, but he's shit scared of the ball, has zero technique and offers no attacking threat whatsoever. because he's so limited he gets held to the lowest possible standard, the opposite of someone like ASM, basically. not to mention he's a perma crock. thanks for everything Paul, but down to the Champo you go son. Bruce will probably sign him. which says everything you need to know. Could not like this post more, sums up my thoughts exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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