NUFC transfer rumours in the press

[SEMTEX]

I like it.

 

 

[LFEE]

And Bellamy was a much bigger risk than Berahino.

 

Bobby saw something in Bellamy that not many others did.

 

Although I'm not a big Berahino fan I have to agree with this. Bellamy had two serious injuries by the time we bought him. Either knee or ACLs.

[Guest antz1uk]

Cannot remember that antz, what happened again?

 

Anyway was Remy ever disruptive? He didn't want to be here, clearly, but he wasn't a trouble maker afik. He's had his dream move and it's failed for him though, he's 29, he'd probably just have to accept that we're his level.

 

 

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[Mole_Toonfan]

 

Just to add to this, the biggest fee we received for a player in 2001 was when Oldham Athletic splashed out £150k for the highly rated David Beharall. Compare that to the £3.26m we received this season for Davide Santon:

 

3.26m / 150k = 21.73

 

Bellamy's £6.5m * 21.73 = £141,250,000.

 

So as SEMTEX has already elegantly described, Berahino is well worth the reported £18m.

 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Berainho would be dead good.

 

Worth not getting just to avoid the misspelling's when McLaren doesn't pick him for the games when we loose.

 

Was all set to pull you up on these mistakes.

[Guest antz1uk]

Berainho would be dead good.

 

Worth not getting just to avoid the misspelling's when McLaren doesn't pick him for the games when we loose.

 

[Parsley]

Well what's that got to do with him being odious? The money's there, it's been there for ages and it's about time it was spent on quality so we don't have to endure listless shites like Alsoran scampering around.

Not a lot admittedly  I do think though that Bellamy's track record with things off the pitch was quite a bit better than Berahino's at the same point of their careers, and hadn't fallen out with any of his managers to nearly the same extent as Berahino has thus far. This should be factored into the fee, which I don't believe it is if we are planning on a bid for £18 million.

 

So was Bellamy.

Bellamy didn't cost £18 million.

 

Bellamy cost £6.5m in 2001.

 

I don't have 'average fee' data over the years, so I thought I'd reference the British transfer record instead. At that time Rio Ferdinand was the most expensive British transfer at £29,100,000. Nowadays that record goes to Gareth Bale, at £85,300,000. That is 2.93 times how much Rio cost.

 

Bellamy's £6.5m * 2.93 = £19,053,265.

 

So you're right. We shouldn't be paying £18m, we should be paying £19m.

 

I don't agree with using Bale as the most expensive British transfer - it's Real Madrid doing the buying in that instance and their spending power is far greater than any of the British clubs. Bale is also the most expensive player in the world, not just Britain, and an anomaly in the sense that he is the only British player to my knowledge to hold that particular accolade. Zidane, his equivalent in 2001, went for £45 million - 50% more than Ferdinand, the most expensive British player. If you instead use the most expensive player bought by a British club as the benchmark - Angel di Maria at £59.7 million (ignoring Martial and his weird add-ons until they kick into play further down the line) - di Maria works out at 2.051 times the price of Rio, which would lower Bellamy's modern day fee to £13,335,052.

[John P]

Well what's that got to do with him being odious? The money's there, it's been there for ages and it's about time it was spent on quality so we don't have to endure listless shites like Alsoran scampering around.

Not a lot admittedly  I do think though that Bellamy's track record with things off the pitch was quite a bit better than Berahino's at the same point of their careers, and hadn't fallen out with any of his managers to nearly the same extent as Berahino has thus far. This should be factored into the fee, which I don't believe it is if we are planning on a bid for £18 million.

 

So was Bellamy.

Bellamy didn't cost £18 million.

 

Bellamy cost £6.5m in 2001.

 

I don't have 'average fee' data over the years, so I thought I'd reference the British transfer record instead. At that time Rio Ferdinand was the most expensive British transfer at £29,100,000. Nowadays that record goes to Gareth Bale, at £85,300,000. That is 2.93 times how much Rio cost.

 

Bellamy's £6.5m * 2.93 = £19,053,265.

 

So you're right. We shouldn't be paying £18m, we should be paying £19m.

 

I don't agree with using Bale as the most expensive British transfer - it's Real Madrid doing the buying in that instance and their spending power is far greater than any of the British clubs. Bale is also the most expensive player in the world, not just Britain, and an anomaly in the sense that he is the only British player to my knowledge to hold that particular accolade. Zidane, his equivalent in 2001, went for £45 million - 50% more than Ferdinand, the most expensive British player. If you instead use the most expensive player bought by a British club as the benchmark - Angel di Maria at £59.7 million (ignoring Martial and his weird add-ons until they kick into play further down the line) - di Maria works out at 2.051 times the price of Rio, which would lower Bellamy's modern day fee to £13,335,052.

 

Jesus Christ.

[Altamullan]

Nice work chaps! Appreciating the numbers.... Funny though how we all, self included, can use statistics the way a drunk uses a lamp post... for support rather than illumination!

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[STM]

Previously.

[Stal]

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Told by who, I wonder.

[Guest antz1uk]

clubs are desperate to come to an agreement so the transfers of Perez and berahino can happen iyak 

[Robster]

Nice of NUFC to offer Spurs a free hair-do.

[Wallace]

clubs are desperate to come to an agreement so the transfers of Perez and berahino can happen iyak 

 

If Spurs are seriously interested in Perez I would expect that they will be trying to make him part of the deal and because it is Levy, we will probably end up paying £12m plus Perez.  He won't do a deal unless he can screw the buying club in some way.

 

[joeyt]

However, it is claimed Newcastle are set to sign Berahino and Tottenham winger Andros Townsend, 24, to take their January spending beyond £100m. (Daily Express) 

 

£41.5 million each

[joeyt]

from .com

 

It's unclear what the targets were, but United were represented in Portugal at games involving both Porto and Benfica in recent days.

[U2]

However, it is claimed Newcastle are set to sign Berahino and Tottenham winger Andros Townsend, 24, to take their January spending beyond £100m. (Daily Express) 

 

£41.5 million each

 

[SEMTEX]

However, it is claimed Newcastle are set to sign Berahino and Tottenham winger Andros Townsend, 24, to take their January spending beyond £100m. (Daily Express) 

 

£41.5 million each

 

Many Spurs fans say Andros Townsend reminds them of a modern day Ruel Fox, who actually used to play for NUFC.

 

We signed Ruel Fox from Norwich City for £2.25m in 1994. At that time, the British record transfer was £5.5m, recouped for Paul Gascoigne, sold by (would you believe it) Tottenham Hotspur. The current transfer record is held by Real Madrid, when they purchased Gareth Bale, who was ALSO sold by Tottenham Sellspurs, this time for a handsome fee of £85.3 million. That's a multiplier of 15.51! And Gazza was better tbh.

 

Which means, with regards to Andros Townsend a.k.a. the modern day Ruel Fox, we should be looking to bid somewhere in the region of £34.9 million.  (2.25 * 15.51 = 34.9)

 

Which still wouldn't take us anywhere near £100m in January, assuming Berahino goes for the rightful price of £19m.

[Mole_Toonfan]

:lol:

[Parsley]

Well what's that got to do with him being odious? The money's there, it's been there for ages and it's about time it was spent on quality so we don't have to endure listless shites like Alsoran scampering around.

Not a lot admittedly  I do think though that Bellamy's track record with things off the pitch was quite a bit better than Berahino's at the same point of their careers, and hadn't fallen out with any of his managers to nearly the same extent as Berahino has thus far. This should be factored into the fee, which I don't believe it is if we are planning on a bid for £18 million.

 

So was Bellamy.

Bellamy didn't cost £18 million.

 

Bellamy cost £6.5m in 2001.

 

I don't have 'average fee' data over the years, so I thought I'd reference the British transfer record instead. At that time Rio Ferdinand was the most expensive British transfer at £29,100,000. Nowadays that record goes to Gareth Bale, at £85,300,000. That is 2.93 times how much Rio cost.

 

Bellamy's £6.5m * 2.93 = £19,053,265.

 

So you're right. We shouldn't be paying £18m, we should be paying £19m.

 

I don't agree with using Bale as the most expensive British transfer - it's Real Madrid doing the buying in that instance and their spending power is far greater than any of the British clubs. Bale is also the most expensive player in the world, not just Britain, and an anomaly in the sense that he is the only British player to my knowledge to hold that particular accolade. Zidane, his equivalent in 2001, went for £45 million - 50% more than Ferdinand, the most expensive British player. If you instead use the most expensive player bought by a British club as the benchmark - Angel di Maria at £59.7 million (ignoring Martial and his weird add-ons until they kick into play further down the line) - di Maria works out at 2.051 times the price of Rio, which would lower Bellamy's modern day fee to £13,335,052.

 

Jesus Christ.

This coming from the man who just dug out the biggest transfer fee we received in 2001? 

 

Appreciate I was splitting hairs a bit in the previous post but at least let me get things back to Berahino:

 

- If we're using the sum we paid Coventry for Bellamy in 2001 as a yardstick for Berahino's relative worth, I don't think £19 million is a good deal.

- Regardless of what it would cost to sign Berahino, I simply don't like the guy. Pulis is probably the last guy I'd want to bring a talented youngster through the ranks but there's a real arrogance about Berahino that grates (as odd as it sounds, that FA Cup game against a lower league side where he scored 4 goals and couldn't even crack a smile springs to mind - as if the game was completely beneath him. He also got into a fight with James Morrison, who's hardly Roy bloody Keane). I know he's young, but his attitude seems a million miles away from those in his peer group - the likes of Kane, Barkley, Dier, Stones who all come across as consummate professionals despite their age. We have quite a likable squad at the moment who are beginning to turn it around on the pitch; I'm not sure I'd want to risk disrupting that by bringing in a bad egg. I rate McClaren as a coach but less so as a man-manager and I'd question his ability to get a talented but rebellious youngster on the straight and narrow.

 

 

[gazza ladra]

Berahino had 20 goals last season. Bellamy didn't have half that the season before he signed with NUFC. Wouldn't expect the prices to be comparable.

[Guest antz1uk]

However, it is claimed Newcastle are set to sign Berahino and Tottenham winger Andros Townsend, 24, to take their January spending beyond £100m. (Daily Express) 

 

£41.5 million each

 

£50m in the summer + 5m Saivet £12m Shelvey £12m Toonsend £18m Berahino = £101m (according to media reports)

[Guest chopey]

Ruel Fox is nearly 50 !! Christ I feel old

[SEMTEX]

Well what's that got to do with him being odious? The money's there, it's been there for ages and it's about time it was spent on quality so we don't have to endure listless shites like Alsoran scampering around.

Not a lot admittedly  I do think though that Bellamy's track record with things off the pitch was quite a bit better than Berahino's at the same point of their careers, and hadn't fallen out with any of his managers to nearly the same extent as Berahino has thus far. This should be factored into the fee, which I don't believe it is if we are planning on a bid for £18 million.

 

So was Bellamy.

Bellamy didn't cost £18 million.

 

Bellamy cost £6.5m in 2001.

 

I don't have 'average fee' data over the years, so I thought I'd reference the British transfer record instead. At that time Rio Ferdinand was the most expensive British transfer at £29,100,000. Nowadays that record goes to Gareth Bale, at £85,300,000. That is 2.93 times how much Rio cost.

 

Bellamy's £6.5m * 2.93 = £19,053,265.

 

So you're right. We shouldn't be paying £18m, we should be paying £19m.

 

I don't agree with using Bale as the most expensive British transfer - it's Real Madrid doing the buying in that instance and their spending power is far greater than any of the British clubs. Bale is also the most expensive player in the world, not just Britain, and an anomaly in the sense that he is the only British player to my knowledge to hold that particular accolade. Zidane, his equivalent in 2001, went for £45 million - 50% more than Ferdinand, the most expensive British player. If you instead use the most expensive player bought by a British club as the benchmark - Angel di Maria at £59.7 million (ignoring Martial and his weird add-ons until they kick into play further down the line) - di Maria works out at 2.051 times the price of Rio, which would lower Bellamy's modern day fee to £13,335,052.

 

Jesus Christ.

This coming from the man who just dug out the biggest transfer fee we received in 2001? 

 

Appreciate I was splitting hairs a bit in the previous post but at least let me get things back to Berahino:

 

- If we're using the sum we paid Coventry for Bellamy in 2001 as a yardstick for Berahino's relative worth, I don't think £19 million is a good deal.

- Regardless of what it would cost to sign Berahino, I simply don't like the guy. Pulis is probably the last guy I'd want to bring a talented youngster through the ranks but there's a real arrogance about Berahino that grates (as odd as it sounds, that FA Cup game against a lower league side where he scored 4 goals and couldn't even crack a smile springs to mind - as if the game was completely beneath him. He also got into a fight with James Morrison, who's hardly Roy bloody Keane). I know he's young, but his attitude seems a million miles away from those in his peer group - the likes of Kane, Barkley, Dier, Stones who all come across as consummate professionals despite their age. We have quite a likable squad at the moment who are beginning to turn it around on the pitch; I'm not sure I'd want to risk disrupting that by bringing in a bad egg. I rate McClaren as a coach but less so as a man-manager and I'd question his ability to get a talented but rebellious youngster on the straight and narrow.

 

 

 

So you like Kane, Barkley, Dier and Stones, but you hate Berahino.

 

I wonder what those 4 players have in common, that Berahino does not.

 

I wonder if there's something different about him. Hmmm.

 

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