ponsaelius Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Graham Carr thinks Lallana is shite. Adam Le Lana however... Scouts never ever get things wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesyJazz Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'm (surprisingly) not worried. Really cannot see Cabaye leaving this January - he needs to be playing consistently in the lead up to the World Cup (something we can guarantee) and I cannot see him getting that at PSG, certainly not in the middle of the season. Also factor in the 75% tax rate the French Govt are imposing on higher earners and the proposed deal is a total pile of shite dreamt up by bored journalists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 30 mill or gtf Common sense should be exactly that + player to immediately fill his void in that role. I know people don't do player exchange often but a pre agreed deal based on that would be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Would have been fine with 15 - 20mill over the summer for him, but now with the team playing so well his price had to have gone up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 How about we don't sell him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 It's not just a quality player that we'd lose by selling Cabaye, we would also take away a lot of the current players belief. A potential Cabaye sale would effect us more negatively that i even dare to think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'm (surprisingly) not worried. Really cannot see Cabaye leaving this January - he needs to be playing consistently in the lead up to the World Cup (something we can guarantee) and I cannot see him getting that at PSG, certainly not in the middle of the season. Also factor in the 75% tax rate the French Govt are imposing on higher earners and the proposed deal is a total pile of s**** dreamt up by bored journalists. That proposal has been turned down I believe, or at least an exception has been made for French football clubs.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 And yet we get "I don't think he'll leave" from the manager, not "Cabaye is not for sale at any price" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Nobody in world football with the possible exception of Lionel Messi is "Not for sale at any price". That's a ridiculous comment from any manager and will only bite them on the arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Nobody in world football with the possible exception of Lionel Messi is "Not for sale at any price". That's a ridiculous comment from any manager and will only bite them on the arse. As it did with Carroll. You can throw a lot of shit at Pardew which he more than deserves but not guaranteeing a player won't leave is fair enough. I know I will get "well he should keep his mouth shut" or laughed at when I say he will be asked certain things but, well he will won't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 How about we don't sell him? Madness! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 No transfer fee would leave me feeling satisfied because I have reservations as to whether it'd be reinvested. Hoping we don't enter into negotiations, but if we have close to 40 points towards the end of January () I wouldn't put it past them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Fair enough I suppose, I'm probably being hypocritical, but selling him next month will be catastrophic imo and we should hold onto him till summer, we should not be panicing that the fee will be any lower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 No transfer fee would leave me feeling satisfied because I have reservations as to whether it'd be reinvested. Hoping we don't enter into negotiations, but if we have close to 40 points towards the end of January () I wouldn't put it past them. how about the same amount it takes for Mike Ashley to fuck off?? gotcha there, buddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 25m plus someone mint in exchange or fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Menez and Ben Arfa managed by Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'm (surprisingly) not worried. Really cannot see Cabaye leaving this January - he needs to be playing consistently in the lead up to the World Cup (something we can guarantee) and I cannot see him getting that at PSG, certainly not in the middle of the season. Also factor in the 75% tax rate the French Govt are imposing on higher earners and the proposed deal is a total pile of s**** dreamt up by bored journalists. That proposal has been turned down I believe, or at least an exception has been made for French football clubs.. It was turned down in November when they wanted to also apply it to Monaco. But they've since amended it to make Monaco exempt (since its a principality) and AFAIK its now gone through and includes all normal French clubs. Might be wrong but that's how I understood it at the time. EDIT: French clubs are still hoping to get it overturned but it has been voted into law: http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1658022/french-clubs-continue-tax-dispute?cc=5739 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'm (surprisingly) not worried. Really cannot see Cabaye leaving this January - he needs to be playing consistently in the lead up to the World Cup (something we can guarantee) and I cannot see him getting that at PSG, certainly not in the middle of the season. Also factor in the 75% tax rate the French Govt are imposing on higher earners and the proposed deal is a total pile of s**** dreamt up by bored journalists. That proposal has been turned down I believe, or at least an exception has been made for French football clubs.. It was turned down in November when they wanted to also apply it to Monaco. But they've since amended it to make Monaco exempt (since its a principality) and AFAIK its now gone through and includes all normal French clubs. Might be wrong but that's how I understood it at the time. EDIT: French clubs are still hoping to get it overturned but it has been voted into law: http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1658022/french-clubs-continue-tax-dispute?cc=5739 Ah ok, didn't know that. Had read the opposite or so a month back. Good to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 "Representatives of clubs in France's top two flights -- the only professional leagues in the country -- had hoped to convince president Francois Hollande to merely impose the measure on new contracts, rather than apply it retroactively, when they met the French head-of-state in late October." Seems like they're not even fighting against the tax for newcomers. Good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 PSG will literally have to pay hundreds of billions ha ha ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 The tax thing is a red herring he earns peanuts compared to the other big names they already have. If PSG come knocking Cabaye will go. Champions league football every season a very good salary plus living in one of the best cities in the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 The tax thing is a red herring he earns peanuts compared to the other big names they already have. If PSG come knocking Cabaye will go. Champions league football every season a very good salary plus living in one of the best cities in the world The new tax doesn't make the move impossible but it could definitely have an impact IMO. Without it they'd likely have been able to lure him their for £70k or so, with it that would now be a significant pay cut, they'll probably have to offer something like £150k instead. Its not a wage you'd think is out of their reach normally, but its significantly higher than they would normally have to pay. Also their's the fact that their costs will have already sky rocketed from the effect on the new tax on current playing staff (its going to be paid retroactively for 2013 season). They have to manage costs to some degree or Champions League Football won't be a lure at all because they'll be banned from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 The tax thing is a red herring he earns peanuts compared to the other big names they already have. If PSG come knocking Cabaye will go. Champions league football every season a very good salary plus living in one of the best cities in the world The new tax doesn't make the move impossible but its not a red herring either, it could definitely have an impact. Without the new tax they'd likely have been able to lure him their for £70k or so, with it that would now be a significant pay cut, they'll probably have to give him £150k+ instead. Its not a wage you'd think is out of their reach normally, but its significantly higher than they would normally have to pay. Also their's the fact that their costs will have already sky rocketed from the effect on the new tax on current playing staff (its going to be paid retroactively for 2013 season). They have to manage costs to some degree or Champions League Football won't be a lure at all because they'll be banned from it. We will see how FFP plays out. Plenty of clubs will be breach of it so it depends on Uefa and how stringent they will be. Either way PSG Come and we say goodbye to Cabaye. We've got no interest in competing with them on any front sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 What % tax were they paying previously? No doubt there is a significant increase but I feel too much had been made of the 75%. It's not as if they weren't paying any tax before the tax adjustment. Doubt PSG will have any problems (Europe, FFP, attracting players) with it anyway when there are ways to circumvent this. The non-Arab clubs will face the pain more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 What % tax were they paying previously? No doubt there is a significant increase but I feel too much had been made of the 75%. It's not as if they weren't paying any tax before the tax adjustment. Doubt PSG will have any problems (Europe, FFP, attracting players) with it anyway when there are ways to circumvent this. The non-Arab clubs will face the pain more. They were paying 45% before. So they pay a player £100k per week and his take home pay is £55k per week. If the player now wants the same take home pay they have to pay him £222k per week. Significant doesn't even describe it, its massive. Also I have no doubt they're already pulling every trick to circunvent the ruling as much as possible. But in the end there's only so much they can do. If Uefa take FFP even remotely seriously then its going to have to have a significant impact on their spending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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