54 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11304945/time-for-clubs-to-move-on-from-the-old-generation-of-british-coaches As British bosses struggle at the foot of the Premier League, the justification for ignoring young coaches disappears, writes Adam Bate. The 68-year-old Arsene Wenger made headlines earlier this week by bemoaning the treatment he receives because of his advancing years. "The older you get the more it becomes a little bit age discrimination," argued the Arsenal manager. But it is a strange time to make the point. In one sense, it has never been a better time to be a veteran coach. Never before have struggling Premier League sides turned to experienced British managers with such regularity. It began in September when Roy Hodgson pitched up at Crystal Palace. In November alone, Sam Allardyce, David Moyes and Alan Pardew returned. Paul Lambert followed. Mark Hughes is just the latest tasked with turning around a team's fortunes. Every one of those teams were in the bottom four when the vacancy came up. Some of these managers will even succeed in steering their sides away from danger. But with Alan Pardew adrift at the bottom with West Brom and others receiving an underwhelming response from fans, one wonders whether those who have failed to inspire before deserve to keep getting these chances. Much is made of the influx of foreign managers into the Premier League, but there are still eight British managers in there, as well as former Republic of Ireland international Chris Hughton. Among them, the majority are well over 50. Only long-serving Bournemouth boss Eddie Howe is under the age of 45. Where are the opportunities for Howe's peers? The contrast between the Premier League and the Bundesliga is marked - and not because that league does not have foreign managers. There are 13 Germans currently in charge of Bundesliga clubs and, remarkably, no fewer than five of them are still in their thirties - with Hoffenheim head coach Julien Nagelsmann only reaching that landmark in July. Of course, Bayern Munich boss Jupp Heynckes is the outlier at 72. But he could well be replaced by 44-year-old Thomas Tuchel in the summer and the next oldest German coach in the Bundesliga is 53. That is younger than Hughes, Pardew and Moyes let alone Hodgson and Sam Allardyce. The elder generation in Germany has been moved on. Some might suggest that these German coaches are just better than their English counterparts - but speak to those in the know - and this is not the picture they paint. Edu Rubio, a Spanish youth coach at MK Dons, is highly thought of within his own country's FA and talks enthusiastically about the "giant awakening" that has occurred in English coaching. "It is so different from 10 years ago," Rubio told Sky Sports. "When I first came, it was quite traditional. But since then the FA has done a great job. They have changed the UEFA B, they have changed the UEFA A and they have even changed the Pro Licence. They have taken ideas from Spain, Germany and France. They have a really good coaching programme now." Young coaches are out there but they are operating down the divisions. While there is only one manager of any nationality who is 45 years old or younger currently working in the Premier League, there are nine of them in the Championship. More than half of the managers currently employed by League One and League Two clubs are aged 45 or under. Unfortunately, there is a lingering suspicion that lower-league coaching is no preparation for the top flight. Thud and blunder amid muck and nettles. But it is not a view recognised by Paul Hart, the 64-year-old assistant boss at Luton. "I am in danger of sounding patronising but I think there are a lot of great young coaches out there," Hart told Sky Sports. "They do the preparation. I never cease to be impressed by the opposition managers in League Two in terms of how they prepare their teams. You can see that the work that is being done to combat the opponents. They produce all sorts of different systems that you have to cope with. So I am continually impressed by the whole division." How long will these managers have to wait for their opportunity to move up through the leagues? Consider the example of Shrewsbury's Paul Hurst. The 43-year-old coach has won promotions in his first three managerial jobs and now has his team top of League One in his fourth role, despite having to work with one of the smallest budgets in the division. But speak to him and he fears that if he is to get to the Championship let alone the top flight then he will need to win yet another promotion. He is not alone. It is a frustration likely to be shared by many young coaches. There is 40-year-old Darrell Clarke at Bristol Rovers, who took Salisbury City up before winning back-to-back promotions with his current club. How much further can he take them on that budget? Have he and others like him not already demonstrated that they have the coaching credentials for a role further up the football pyramid? On the face of it, time might be on their side but getting these experiences at an early age is crucial if they are to hold out any hope of reaching the very top. Look at the ages of the first-time Champions League winning managers so far this century and the pattern is clear. All of them have reached the pinnacle of club coaching before turning 50 with Vicente Del Bosque the oldest at 49. Since he lifted the trophy in 2000, each of the eight first-time Champions League winning managers have been 45 or under. Talent and hard work was crucial to that success, but so was opportunity. Rafa Benitez's promotions with Extremadura and Tenerife got him the Valencia job at 41. Jose Mourinho's good work at Uniaio de Leiria convinced Porto to give him a chance. Player pathways are the focus of attention in English football right now but coaching pathways are important too. Perhaps the promising young hopefuls in the lower leagues could not have saved West Brom from survival. Maybe they would not be able to steer Southampton clear of the drop either. But instead of seeing the same old faces swap jobs in the Premier League, it would be healthier if those succeeding at the level below were to get the chance to find out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Crawley's Harry Kewell rumoured to be the new Charlton manager, with an Australian consortium supposedly completing a takeover in the next week or so. *according to the one Australian journalist not working the ball tampering story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Mick Mccarthy leaving Ipswich at the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Crawley's Harry Kewell rumoured to be the new Charlton manager, with an Australian consortium supposedly completing a takeover in the next week or so. *according to the one Australian journalist not working the ball tampering story Mates with Bowyer as well you'd think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Mick Mccarthy leaving Ipswich at the end of the season I'll probably sound like one of those 'careful what you wish for' pricks from the Pardew days but I'll laugh if they crash and burn with someone like McLaren (was rumoured last week). McCarthy's been allowed to spend £6m gross since joining in November 2012. they recouped more than that just by selling Tyrone Mings to Bournemouth. What the hell is anyone supposed to do with that sort of money these days? Someone at work actually came out with 'I'd rather lose 5-4 playing good football than win 1-0 the way McCarthy plays'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Carver to take over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Carver to take over? He's left as well. Darren Moore is in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Carver to take over? He's left as well. Darren Moore is in charge. Alright, not sure why as he's one of the best in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Cunts. Wanted a relegation on his cv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Cunts. Wanted a relegation on his cv He already has one. Charlton 2006/07. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Cunts. Wanted a relegation on his cv He already has one. Charlton 2006/07. I'm greedy. I wanted more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Don’t understand this sacking like. They’re as good as down. Nobody will be able tomsave them at this point surely. It's probably to start preparing early for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Cunts. Wanted a relegation on his cv Getting employed and sacked within 4 months of the same season is pretty shit to have on your CV. I'm pleased with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Obviously going to be pundit for the arsenal match, I prefer seeing him snivelling on match of the day blaming his players than being a pundit 😡 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I'll allow them that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I'll allow them that one. Aye, that's really good tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Gutted. I was looking forward to the 100% crowd abuse at the WB game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 So they now will have had more managers than wins this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I'd also be looking to disinfect his desk asap too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 You'd think that'd be Pardew's Premiership 'credentials' binned, but nope, there will be some silly Chairman somewhere who'll employ him again due to his 'experience with the league'. Regardless that that experience is abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 One of my mates has already advocated Pardew for Ipswich. Fucking mentalists round here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I guess this makes sense if they have any players they might want to hang onto. Chris Brunt or someone. Keeping Pards around would have just pissed them all off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Pearson and Shakespear are the favourites to take over at WBA. They just need to learn the fucking lesson, Pulis and Pardew should have been enough for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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