Gallowgate End Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Sacking Sarri is mad like, although I’m sure he’ll be happy to get out if they have the transfer ban anyway. Manager who has a definite style which takes time to perfect, thrown in a few weeks before the season started and they finish third behind two of the best teams ever, lose a league cup final on pens and in a European Final Guardiola and Klopp took a while to get their ideas across and now their clubs are benefiting from showing patience and backing their managers. Do you really think he can be a longterm success at Chelsea in terms of turning them into Title and Champions League challengers? I think he’ll only ever be successful if he goes back to Italy everytime I hear him speak with the English press he’s a disaster. Came with a massive reputation as a coach and manager but has disappointed in both regards. He should go back to Italy and try win his first ever trophy becuase I can’t see him ever having the success as the likes of Guardiola and Rafa Benitez have had here and Klopp will have. You should write for The Sun with that kind of logic. How has he disappointed? He was appointed about two weeks before the season started and finished third getting to two cup finals. I bet you thought Guardiola was a fraud after his first season as well. You're an idiot So do you think he could get Chelsea challenging either the Title or the Champions League like Guardiola and Klopp has done if given a few years? And I didn’t mean his language skills I meant the stuff he says in the press about his players. He just seems a coach to me his managerial skills are terrible. Even his coaching skills haven’t even been impressive “SARRI BALL” I don’t know if he could. I don’t think anyone will get Chelsea to be title challengers in the next few years. They’re losing their best player and have a transfer ban. Did you think Guardiola was going to become this dominant after his first season which was probably worse than Sarri’s season this year? Klopp likewise How are his managerial skills terrible? Can’t be that bad if he finished third and got to two cup finals as well as his previous success at Napoli Guardiola yes and Klopp yes I actually thought Guardiola would do better than he did in his first season but knew he wouldn’t fail longterm especially with the Man City money. I think Klopp will go onto win a few Premier League titles and at least a Champions League as he has transitioned Liverpool into being the most balanced of the top sides in Europe. Klopp will probably go onto be the most successful in the next 6/7 years mainly because he will out stay Guardiola and I think he will outperform Pochettino in trophies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Thought Klopp didn't have a winner's mentality. Or is it Pochettino? I can't keep up. Suppose we'll find out on June 1st cos they can't both have one. Well quite. We will Pochettino has lost like 17 times this season with a lineup that cost on average £300million. “Miracle” worker though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 *sigh* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Chelsea have been bloody awful to watch this season IMO, a proper one man team that without Hazard would have struggled IMO. How much of that is on Sarri is very much up for debate though tbf as Chelsea seems to be rotten to the core in regards of top level management. If Hazard leaves this summer, and the transfer ban stays, I can't see how they finish anywhere near the top 4, let alone being in a title race, no matter who manages them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Chelsea have been bloody awful to watch this season IMO, a proper one man team that without Hazard would have struggled IMO. How much of that is on Sarri is very much up for debate though tbf as Chelsea seems to be rotten to the core in regards of top level management. If Hazard leaves this summer, and the transfer ban stays, I can't see how they finish anywhere near the top 4, let alone being in a title race, no matter who manages them. Spot on 5th at best and for them next season if Hazard leaves and Sarri stays probably send him back to Italy halfway into the season. Shame there isn’t a good enough upcoming side outside the Big 6 to knock Chelsea and Man Utd out of it becuase these next 2 years would probably be the best opportunity of it. Wolves will drop like a stone in the league with Europa League and West Ham and Everton will still not be anywhere near even after spending another £100million Put Rafa Benitez in charge of West Ham or Everton with £100million to spend and he would break that Big 6 with a cigar in his mouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 They'll never win the title with Sarri. They want someone with a winner's mentality. Allegri would do well there. Italians do well there. Sarri is Italian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 They'll never win the title with Sarri. They want someone with a winner's mentality. Allegri would do well there. Italians do well there. Well they aren't going to win a title till Pep/Klopp are gone anyway. I don't see why Sarri definitely won't win a title there anyway compared to others. People go on about him not winning stuff like he's been managing Inter, Juve and Milan for the last 20 years. He had one chance at Napoli where he was already massively overachieving by budget and he was responsible for basically the only year where Juve were actually put under pressure to win the league Sarri is also Italian there's almost certainly a reason for this no? given the turnover of managers at italian clubs wonder why he was never given a decent shot at anything until napoli Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Can’t see anyone succeeding at Chelsea atm. Poisoned chalice. If third, Europa League final, and League Cup final is failing, then yeah, it's going to be hard to succeed. fwiw, past history suggests the top two won't get 97+ points next year. I doubt that will prove to be a new normal. I doubt Liverpool will match 97 points and City could struggle to hit that level too. Replace current-form Aguero (coming up to 31) with current-form Jesus, who's still excellent but isn't the same focal point, and that's down to 90 points. 90 points is still way off for current Chelsea and the others, but is a more realistic goal than record-chasing territory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pons Alias Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Ashley’s dream replacement for Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Thought Klopp didn't have a winner's mentality. Or is it Pochettino? I can't keep up. Suppose we'll find out on June 1st cos they can't both have one. Well quite. We will Pochettino has lost like 17 times this season with a lineup that cost on average £300million. “Miracle” worker though Got Spurs to a CL final. And it's hot shit anyway. Cba to find their most appeared XI but the strongest is arguably: Lloris - 12m Sanchez - 42m Alderweireld - 11.5m Vertonghen - 12m Trippier - 3.5m Sissoko - 30m Eriksen - 11m Rose - 1m Son - 22m Kane - Nowt Alli - 5m Total - £150m Even if you add in Lucas (22m), Lamela (25m) and Aurier (22.5m) for their 3 cheapest players it's still wildly inaccurate. Maybe he's stuffing 50's into the players kegs but that'd be a lot of notes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Hooton early favourite for Boro job.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Allegri leaving Juve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Conte to succeed him? Can't think of many others. Also no idea where Allegri will go next unless he has a bit of a break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 They'll never win the title with Sarri. They want someone with a winner's mentality. Allegri would do well there. Italians do well there. Well they aren't going to win a title till Pep/Klopp are gone anyway. I don't see why Sarri definitely won't win a title there anyway compared to others. People go on about him not winning stuff like he's been managing Inter, Juve and Milan for the last 20 years. He had one chance at Napoli where he was already massively overachieving by budget and he was responsible for basically the only year where Juve were actually put under pressure to win the league Sarri is also Italian there's almost certainly a reason for this no? given the turnover of managers at italian clubs wonder why he was never given a decent shot at anything until napoli Because he wasn’t a player and had to work his way up from nowhere basically. Even Napoli taking a chance on him was seen as a massive gamble at the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Thought Klopp didn't have a winner's mentality. Or is it Pochettino? I can't keep up. Suppose we'll find out on June 1st cos they can't both have one. Well quite. We will Pochettino has lost like 17 times this season with a lineup that cost on average £300million. “Miracle” worker though Got Spurs to a CL final. Even if you add in Lucas (22m), Lamela (25m) and Aurier (22.5m) for their 3 cheapest players. Imagine spending that much on his bench and thinking he’s working a “Miracle” He got a £42million centre half How does that man get 4th and win nothing what a ”Miracle” worker. Lost 17 games this season with a squad that cost over £300million “Best £ for £ manager in the league” though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Conte to succeed him? Can't think of many others. Also no idea where Allegri will go next unless he has a bit of a break. Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Serie A will be interesting next season if Inter get Conte, Milan get Sarri and Juve get Deschamps or someone like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Conte to succeed him? Can't think of many others. Also no idea where Allegri will go next unless he has a bit of a break. Man Utd. If they had any sense they'd go for him. But Ole's at the wheel, he knows the club and knows what the fans want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Wonder if Juve will go for someone like the Atalanta manager or a 'big name'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Serie A will be interesting next season if Inter get Conte, Milan get Sarri and Juve get Deschamps or someone like that Plus you have Roma needing a coach too Roma did go for Conte - but all likely he 'should' be going to Inter (the old Juve technical director is with Inter now who Conte trusts) - However if Inter get rid of their current manager they will need to payout £28m to him and his team (unless Spalletti goes elsewhere - say AC Milan or Roma) Conte to Inter conformed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Roma are favourites for Gasperini Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Thought Klopp didn't have a winner's mentality. Or is it Pochettino? I can't keep up. Suppose we'll find out on June 1st cos they can't both have one. Well quite. We will Pochettino has lost like 17 times this season with a lineup that cost on average £300million. “Miracle” worker though Got Spurs to a CL final. Even if you add in Lucas (22m), Lamela (25m) and Aurier (22.5m) for their 3 cheapest players. Imagine spending that much on his bench and thinking he’s working a “Miracle” He got a £42million centre half How does that man get 4th and win nothing what a ”Miracle” worker. Lost 17 games this season with a squad that cost over £300million “Best £ for £ manager in the league” though Divorcing his results and spending from context? Check Factual inaccuracies? Check Take an extreme comment and widely apply it? Check Sound the WUM klaxon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Wonder if Juve will go for someone like the Atalanta manager or a 'big name'. Think they'll have to go for someone "proven" to some extent or they'll take the risk of wasting Cristy's last few good years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Said a few months ago Zidane should have just waited for the Juve job Shame it didn’t happen. I reckon Poch should try jump ship to Juventus in the Summer will surely look bad if he goes another 15 years without a trophy with that squad at Spurs. Probably not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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