Tiresias Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 39 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Interestingly there’s a rumour that Chelsea has a medical department that essentially decides how the maximum minutes allowed for a player. And Maresca ignored their input multiple times Reported in nyt that the order came down to maresca that he couldnt overrule the medical team regarding player availability and they had strict rotation rules. I can see both sides, he obviously resented getting slagged off by their fans for weird rotations that were forced on him, but on the other they have had a lot of injuries and managers will always rush players back for short term gains which often results in substantially longer injuries. Still it's clear one has limited power as chelsea manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 20 minutes ago, Tiresias said: Still it's clear one has limited power as chelsea manager Definitely not a “manager”. Probably more just a training coach in reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 37 minutes ago, Tiresias said: Reported in nyt that the order came down to maresca that he couldnt overrule the medical team regarding player availability and they had strict rotation rules. I can see both sides, he obviously resented getting slagged off by their fans for weird rotations that were forced on him, but on the other they have had a lot of injuries and managers will always rush players back for short term gains which often results in substantially longer injuries. Still it's clear one has limited power as chelsea manager Yeh the tension between risk, short term results, long term results and player health is difficult to manage and I don’t think there’s a defined best practice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 The owners have come in tried to disrupt how things are done, positives for them - they have proved that PSR can be maniupulated as much as you want if you have existing assets etc - they have a lot of young exciting players - while not title winning or anything, considering how widely mocked their method of taking decisions away from manager their results havent been terrible, they are definitely in a decent position to get into the champions league - the contract length thing has proved to be a decent way of attracting sellable talent at lower wages and they seem proven correct that this will work out negatives for them - Even sensible commitee decisions are hardly the excitement most football fans want - they're cunts - they'll forever be cunts - they'll need a manager whom is willing to tie themselves to the club's decisions, manage the ridiculous squad and not care when players are sold whom is also good enough to get them to win something while putting up with that crap. Hmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 They want a puppet that will deliver results, that’s not what puppets are made for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Absolutely nobody saw that coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 It's simply about protecting their assets, the football barely matters, it's just what the assets happen to do now and again, the money will always be the king at that club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) In any other universe could you imagine a PL top club appointing some bloke who had managed Derby, Hull and Strasbourg without a single honour on their CV? Edited January 1 by Sir Joel Inton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Any other season Slot would have been sacked. Guess it's hard to say he was lucky to win the league in a poor year with little opposition when this year looks even weaker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Fair play to Rosenior if he blags himself the Chelsea gig. Talk about falling upwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The College Dropout Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 13 hours ago, woody said: Fair play to Rosenior if he blags himself the Chelsea gig. Talk about falling upwards Done a good job at Strasbourg aka Chelsea Lite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Stats are far from impressive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 6 minutes ago, toon25 said: Stats are far from impressive Qualified for Europe for the first time in... however many years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Roseniors sacking at Hull was more their mental Turkish owner than anything he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enthusiast Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 13 hours ago, Sir Joel Inton said: In any other universe could you imagine a PL top club appointing some bloke who had managed Derby, Hull and Strasbourg without a single honour on their CV? well, there was the time chelsea appointed enzo maresca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Iraola or Rosenior the options for Chelsea apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Iraola or Rosenior the options for Chelsea apparently. Hope to fuck it’s not Iraola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 26 minutes ago, enthusiast said: well, there was the time chelsea appointed enzo maresca. And how's that worked out for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, Robster said: And how's that worked out for them As good as can reasonably be expected? Qualified for the CL. Won 2 trophies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, The College Dropout said: As good as can reasonably be expected? Qualified for the CL. Won 2 trophies. And yet here we are today, where he's no longer in the job. Reasonable to assume that they won those things in spite of him, not because of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 The more that comes out, the more you can see Chelsea won't hire a top manager. Roman always wanted to win the league. This PE ownership - that's not the aim. The coach has to play kids they've bought. The coach has to put players in the shop window. Has to rotate etc. As imperfect as our owners are - I do believe they expect the coach to do the best on the pitch as possible and everyone is meant to support that. That's not the case at Chelsea. Sell value is more important than performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 15 minutes ago, gbandit said: Hope to fuck it’s not Iraola Aye I think he's quality, lost the entire defence last summer and are still completing. Obviously a question mark due to his lack of experience at the top but he'd give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Robster said: And yet here we are today, where he's no longer in the job. Reasonable to assume that they won those things in spite of him, not because of him He's not been sacked primarily because of performance. He's lost the job because he doesn't want to be a puppet and is causing issues behind the scenes. The Chelsea approach will damage a managers reputation. Truly ambitious managers like Maresca will want to move on. At best some may use it as an opportunity to then join a team that wants to win things consistently so will leave after a year or two. Chelsea are becoming a top 5 Brighton it seems. Edited January 2 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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