The Managerial Merry Go Round™

[tgarve]

16 hours ago, KingArthur said:

Please no to Iraola. Hugely intensive playing style and doesn't suit twice a week schedule in any way

Did you watch Klopp? 

[bobbydazzla]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Some will be fine and supportive some will blame the fans. 

 

Eddie says it's nowt to do with the fans.

 

He explains that he's just done a life changing ayahuasca retreat in the Peak District and now he wants to focus his time on birds of prey, not football.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 15 by bobbydazzla

[Kid Icarus]

 

I'd blame xG

 

 

[bobbydazzla]

3 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

I love Owls, I'm sure the females "Twit" and the males "Hoo Hoo"

 

I must say I agree, I do like the jizz of an owl

[bobbydazzla]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I'd blame xG

 

 

 

 

 

[Minhosa]

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

Iraola’s next move will be interesting, find out how good he is, or was the set up at Bournemouth just the right environment for him. 

Biggest question mark for me is whether he can cope with the volume of games that top level European competition brings with it. 
 

Howe has struggled to manage our league form in both CL seasons and Emery has had similar challenges too. 
 

One game per week Iraola will succeed pretty much anywhere I’d imagine. 
 

Ideally, he’d probably suit a club not in Europe so he can build his squad and embed his playing style/patterns without the pressures of game load. Then attack Europe the following year with ‘his’ squad and ‘his’ systems fully implemented. 

 

 

Edited April 15 by Minhosa

[KingArthur]

14 minutes ago, tgarve said:

Did you watch Klopp? 

He eventually burned out, and he had hugely better team than Bournemouth has. Bournemouth IIRC is top in sprints and distance covered, so their style is hugely punishing in the long term.

 

I just think we need to go to different direction. 

[Bunk Moreland]

 

[Robster]

21 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

He eventually burned out, and he had hugely better team than Bournemouth has. Bournemouth IIRC is top in sprints and distance covered, so their style is hugely punishing in the long term.

 

I just think we need to go to different direction. 

Klopp also had inhalers

[tgarve]

35 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

He eventually burned out, and he had hugely better team than Bournemouth has. Bournemouth IIRC is top in sprints and distance covered, so their style is hugely punishing in the long term.

 

I just think we need to go to different direction. 

His team won the league after he left so can’t have been that burnt out! 
 

most teams these days press and I bet that if you pulled the stats the high intensity runs of top sides would be similar or more than ours 

[Andy84]

I think what sets a manager like Emery and Howe apart is the managing of the squad when in Europe. Eddie is just as good imo but that’s where Emery

is better 

[Infinitely Content]

1 hour ago, tgarve said:

Did you watch Klopp? 

To be fair, Klopp adapted his Liverpool team over the years from the initial chaotic, constant pressing style to a more measured approach where they kept possession more, conserved energy and chose their moments to press and up the intensity. I think it's what Howe has tried to do with us, it just hasn't really worked for whatever reason. Quality of players is likely one of them.

[KingArthur]

47 minutes ago, tgarve said:

His team won the league after he left so can’t have been that burnt out! 
 

most teams these days press and I bet that if you pulled the stats the high intensity runs of top sides would be similar or more than ours 

Yes they did. And Klopp did burn out. But City, playing totally different kind of football (now changing a bit and not playing so much possession football anymore) has been dominating them (and winning more trophies). 

The point is, solution cannot always be more running, pressing and intensity. We are already giving the ball away so much and the games end up being chaos football. Exactly like Iraola has done with Bournemouth and games ending 4-4 and 4-3 etc. That is entertaining to watch, but we don't succeed by that plan for a long.
 

[Kid Icarus]

1 hour ago, Andy84 said:

I think what sets a manager like Emery and Howe apart is the managing of the squad when in Europe. Eddie is just as good imo but that’s where Emery

is better 

 

Emery really was only better while in the CL last year when they made loads of January signings to deal with the load - something that we should have done as well imo. Not convinced that the Europa or Conference makes a great deal of difference to the likes of us or Villa when we could (without wanting to sound arrogant) beat teams playing in 2nd or 3rd gear.

[SUPERTOON]

Any good ?

 

 

[Pixelphish]

Are they aware they can take 6 months to fill the position?

[Robster]

57 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Any good ?

 

 

 

Not good enough for NUFC seemingly.

Won the German Cup in 2023 however "Rose was sacked by the RB Leipzig board on 30 March 2025 after heavily underperforming in the Bundesliga and UEFA Champions League."

 

[HMSIllustrious]

Rose was seen as an upcoming manager talent but nowadays he‘s just one of those Bundesliga regulars with the bonus of being from the Rangnick school (so he‘s tactically very adapt).

 

German newspapers today report that Hjulmand might have to go at the end of the season and Iraola will possibly replace him at Leverkusen (ongoing talks).

 

 

Edited April 15 by HMSIllustrious

[TRon]

1 hour ago, Pixelphish said:

Are they aware they can take 6 months to fill the position?

 

 

Like we took 6 months to tie up the signing of Trafford? 

[TRon]

4 hours ago, Minhosa said:

Biggest question mark for me is whether he can cope with the volume of games that top level European competition brings with it. 
 

Howe has struggled to manage our league form in both CL seasons and Emery has had similar challenges too. 
 

One game per week Iraola will succeed pretty much anywhere I’d imagine. 
 

Ideally, he’d probably suit a club not in Europe so he can build his squad and embed his playing style/patterns without the pressures of game load. Then attack Europe the following year with ‘his’ squad and ‘his’ systems fully implemented. 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a fair point. I don't watch them that often but Bournemouth do seem to play a high intensity game, so there might be question marks whether that translates to big clubs in Europe. 

[Pixelphish]

45 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Like we took 6 months to tie up the signing of Trafford? 

In case it needs saying, I was being facetious because we move slow as shit.

[KaKa]

David Ornstein has reported that the club will stand by Slot even in the event that his side does not qualify for the Champions League in 2026/27.

 

Speaking on the Athletic FC podcast, he said:

 

“All of our information is that FSG, the ownership, the sporting hierarchy at Liverpool – they intend to stick with Arne Slot. From the conversations I’ve had – even if there’s no Champions League football – that’s the intention.”

 

[andycap]

6 hours ago, Infinitely Content said:

To be fair, Klopp adapted his Liverpool team over the years from the initial chaotic, constant pressing style to a more measured approach where they kept possession more, conserved energy and chose their moments to press and up the intensity. I think it's what Howe has tried to do with us, it just hasn't really worked for whatever reason. Quality of players is likely one of them.

Do you think that was what howe was doing? Just Longstaff mentioned when he signed for Leeds that he was actually training with the ball for once like keeping it and pass and move. 

[Wolfcastle]

Thought he was nailed on gone after last night.  

[Infinitely Content]

18 minutes ago, andycap said:

Do you think that was what howe was doing? Just Longstaff mentioned when he signed for Leeds that he was actually training with the ball for once like keeping it and pass and move. 

I think we have tried to pick and choose our moments to press yeah, but I think we've done it badly, in the sense of not doing it enough or very effectively. I also don't think we've been anywhere near good enough on the ball, and that Longstaff quote on the surface appears alarming, although we of course don't know what goes on in training for the most part so I'd be hesitant to draw conclusions on his training methods.

What Howe has tried this season categorically hasn't worked, it's been a failure, but I do still believe he has it in him to come up with a system which combines patient possession and patterns of attacking play with moments of high intensity pressing. He needs to be better, and he also probably needs better footballers too, and maybe a coaching staff refresh.