Guest neesy111 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 All the positives were in our attacking play which was good, but I'm concerned with the lack of experience in the defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 The match was odd because on the one hand, the future is very bright for England. All the young players looked great. On the other hand it's annoying the old guard won't wither and die despite putting in embarrassing. Rooney and Gerrard embarrassed themselves last night compared to the likes of Sturridge and Sterling. Annoys me in this country we won't drop players, no matter how shite they were if they're in favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 We definitely suffered by not having Ashley Cole there. I felt Mourinho jettisoned him prematurely and Woy has to the detriment of the team followed suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Sturidge isn't better than Rooney for me, he may be in better form but a better player? We could always play 2 upfront and try and get the best out of both of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I don't think anyone played even averagely imo. I thought everyone was very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Thought Baines was pretty rank unfortunately. Really like Baines too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Sturidge isn't better than Rooney for me, he may be in better form but a better player? We could always play 2 upfront and try and get the best out of both of them I don't think you can change the whole system you've built for two years just to accommodate a player who clearly doesn't cut it at the very top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's fucking mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I was prouder in that defeat than I've been in most England victories over the last few years at least. It's odd. I thought we were very good aside from when it truly mattered. I thought the BBC pundits were all spot on as well. Totally agree KI. Great to see an England team with some drive and intention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Thought Baines was pretty rank unfortunately. Really like Baines too I thought both full backs were naff but Baines moreso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 As individuals we have just as much quality as Italy and had all our players fit unlike them. Yet, as a team, they looked a level above. Anyone 'proud' of that England performance wants their stupid face slapped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Not. You need to look up the definition of the word then, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 As individuals we have just as much quality as Italy and had all out players fit unlike then. Yet, as a team, they looked a level above. Anyone 'proud' of that England performance wants their stupid face slapped. It was the best and brightest England performance at a tournament for a while. It shows how low our stock has fallen though that people are proud of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Not. You need to look up the definition of the word then, mate. What are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I was prouder in that defeat than I've been in most England victories over the last few years at least. It's odd. I thought we were very good aside from when it truly mattered. I thought the BBC pundits were all spot on as well. Aye. We were the better team but Italy are masters of the full victory. If we turn up for the next two we shouldn't have a problem going through like. Love Costa Rica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Who are our better CFs than Wayne Rooney? Sturridge. In one. It's arguable at best. Though they traditionally play in different positions and it's misleading to suggest we have more than one better than Rooney. No it isn't arguable in the slightest. Daniel Sturridge did more in one game than Wayne Rooney has in any tournament since 2004. So you're saying it is arguable. Not. You need to look up the definition of the word then, mate. What are you talking about? I said it was arguable at best that Sturridge is better than Rooney. Your position is that it 'isn't arguable', yet you think Sturridge is better. You need to look the word up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's f***ing mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. They didn't embarrass themselves but it's not hyperbole to say they were poor. Gerard was anonymous, Baines was prob the worst of all our players and Rooney was tournament Rooney. It was rather like watching us at a much higher level to be honest. Round pegs and square holes, We were totally over run In midfield as Italy always had a spare man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's f***ing mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. They didn't embarrass themselves but it's not hyperbole to say they were poor. Gerard was anonymous, Baines was prob the worst of all our players and Rooney was tournament Rooney. It was rather like watching us at a much higher level to be honest. Round pegs and square holes, We were totally over run In midfield as Italy always had a spare man They dominated possession but I felt we were the more dangerous tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Anyhow why is the England thread locked?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's f***ing mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. They didn't embarrass themselves but it's not hyperbole to say they were poor. Gerard was anonymous, Baines was prob the worst of all our players and Rooney was tournament Rooney. It was rather like watching us at a much higher level to be honest. Round pegs and square holes, We were totally over run In midfield as Italy always had a spare man They dominated possession but I felt we were the more dangerous tbh. Both sides had good chances I felt Italy out played us and deserved to win tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard did not embarrass themselves ffs. It's f***ing mental, and pretty typical of us. Rooney had a pretty poor game on the whole I thought and looked permanently angry throughout, but he set our goal up with a fantastic cross from his left foot. Gerrard and Henderson against Pirlo, Marchisio and De Rossi was always going to be difficult, we don't have any kind of imposing midfielder to stick in there either, but he still kept the ball moving forward whenever he was on it and he was involved a lot. They didn't embarrass themselves but it's not hyperbole to say they were poor. Gerard was anonymous, Baines was prob the worst of all our players and Rooney was tournament Rooney. It was rather like watching us at a much higher level to be honest. Round pegs and square holes, We were totally over run In midfield as Italy always had a spare man They dominated possession but I felt we were the more dangerous tbh. Both sides had good chances I felt Italy out played us and deserved to win tbh. Outplayed seems very harsh to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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