Guest Roger Kint Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Can see Carver's 100% win record as manager taking a dip if he's in charge. I dont believe you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 It's difficult to imagine, but the football under Carver and Stone would be even more grim. It would defy belief. I doubt it would make much difference tbh. The only tactics we seem to employ are to keep plenty of people behind the ball. What would be the worst that could happen if Carver and Stone weren't able to replicate that? We might concede a few more and we might score a few more. I'm going off Stone saying he didn't know how we lost because we ran more and kicked the ball longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Suarez biting and Pardew headbutting are not expressions of wider issues like Terry/Suarez/Anelka's racist antics. The FA and media are using very strange angles to tackle these questions. The witch-hunt seems more important than the core issue. Biting and head-butting does not represent wider issues, issues that are spreading on political and societal levels at this moment in time. Racism etc. are. Suspending Suarez for ten games after biting Ivanovic and doing something similar to Pardew - fine with me. But there seems to be a very transparent lack of direction and understanding of the different contexts'. In my opinion, they're sending an unclear message to the Premier League audience if biting and head-butting is regarded as more offensive than racist and anti-semitic actions. Head-butting, biting and other types of violence will always occur as the sport is full of adrenalin and pressure. There's no excuse for neither of those actions, but the reprecussions will not bare any significant impact on generations to come. People will head-butt again. However, racism in all shapes and forms, whether it's islamophobia, anti-semitism or homophobia, can gain access to football and really get a foothold if it's not treated correctly. The Premier League must not become a platform for those ideas, and there is a risk on evidence of what's going on in Southern and Eastern Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Suarez biting and Pardew headbutting are not expressions of wider issues like Terry/Suarez/Anelka's racist antics. The FA and media are using very strange angles to tackle these questions. The witch-hunt seems more important than the core issue. Biting and head-butting does not represent wider issues, issues that are spreading on political and societal levels at this moment in time. Racism etc. are. Suspending Suarez for ten games after biting Ivanovic and doing something similar to Pardew - fine with me. But there seems to be a very transparent lack of direction and understanding of the different contexts'. In my opinion, they're sending an unclear message to the Premier League audience if biting and head-butting is regarded as more offensive than racist and anti-semitic actions. Head-butting, biting and other types of violence will always occur as the sport is full of adrenalin and pressure. There's no excuse for neither of those actions, but the reprecussions will not bare any significant impact on generations to come. People will head-butt again. However, racism in all shapes and forms, whether it's islamophobia, anti-semitism or homophobia, can gain access to football and really get a foothold if it's not treated correctly. The Premier League must not become a platform for those ideas, and there is a risk on evidence of what's going on in Southern and Eastern Europe. Superb post that, bang on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Fines usually do go to charity iirc? Pretty sure they have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/anger-management-issues-could-cost-alan-pardew-shot-at-england-job? Aye, his anger management issues are what won't get him the England job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Maybe they'll dock us points for failing to control our manager, who is supposed to be in charge of controlling his staff and players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mole_Toonfan Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Whatever anyone says, a manager "head butting" a player is far worse than two players getting aggressive. The manager is the focal point of the club, and has ZERO reason to be involved in a situation like this. Players get caught up in the heat of the battle so they get a little more leeway when it comes to what constitutes aggressive behaviour. Basically, in any other professional job, acting like that would see you sacked, so I don't see why it should be any different for a football manager. Players rightfully get slightly more leeway as there's every chance of getting into a heated battle with someone. There's is no reason for a manager too. While i agree its worse, players should still not get any leeway what so ever. Its still gross misconduct and an absolute joke to pass it off of just " heat of the battle". If players do the same thing they should also be punished severely, especially when like with Shelvey he's not even provoked but goes an headbutts his opponent anyway.... much less not to get any punishment at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Dunno if its been mentioned but Keith Barrett was suggesting on FB that he should get a Football Banning order for violence in a football ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 It's all getting a bit silly really. I voted yes in this poll when it was made because I'd like to see him sacked, but really it's a bit of a nothing incident that deserves a punishment slightly worse than what a player would get, although i'm not sure what that means seeing as the FA took no action against Shelvey. The guy just lost his temper briefly after being pushed, and he didn't chin anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Joey Barton: Seen Pardew incident. As per usual. Massively over-hyped. Don't let a couple of stupid incidents detract from the job he has done at Newcastle. Especially with what goes on behind the scenes there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Joey Barton: Seen Pardew incident. As per usual. Massively over-hyped. Don't let a couple of stupid incidents detract from the job he has done at Newcastle. Especially with what goes on behind the scenes there Massive Also, who takes notice of what that twat says ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 http://directoroffootball.com/pardews-shame/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Joey Barton: Seen Pardew incident. As per usual. Massively over-hyped. Don't let a couple of stupid incidents detract from the job he has done at Newcastle. Especially with what goes on behind the scenes there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Joey Barton: Seen Pardew incident. As per usual. Massively over-hyped. Don't let a couple of stupid incidents detract from the job he has done at Newcastle. Especially with what goes on behind the scenes there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Maybe they'll dock us points for failing to control our manager, who is supposed to be in charge of controlling his staff and players. http://s22.postimg.org/pbg2adcm7/funnyblackmob.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Joey Barton: Seen Pardew incident. As per usual. Massively over-hyped. Don't let a couple of stupid incidents detract from the job he has done at Newcastle. Especially with what goes on behind the scenes there Well at least someone in the spotlight can see it for what it is, unlike most pundits on TV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Joey Barton: Seen Pardew incident. As per usual. Massively over-hyped. Don't let a couple of stupid incidents detract from the job he has done at Newcastle. Especially with what goes on behind the scenes there Well at least someone in the spotlight can see it for what it is, unlike most pundits on TV. The most interesting bit of that for me is "especially with what goes on behind the scenes there". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Aye, I thought it was all rosy tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Joey Barton: Seen Pardew incident. As per usual. Massively over-hyped. Don't let a couple of stupid incidents detract from the job he has done at Newcastle. Especially with what goes on behind the scenes there Well at least someone in the spotlight can see it for what it is, unlike most pundits on TV. A championship footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Joey Barton: Seen Pardew incident. As per usual. Massively over-hyped. Don't let a couple of stupid incidents detract from the job he has done at Newcastle. Especially with what goes on behind the scenes there Well at least someone in the spotlight can see it for what it is, unlike most pundits on TV. The most interesting bit of that for me is "especially with what goes on behind the scenes there". He didn't get the contract he wanted here so of course he's not going to like what goes on behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLK Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 No. Of course not. What's the big deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 @paddypower: One newspaper reporting that Alan Pardew's moment of madness could cost him a shot at the England job, well that, and his managerial record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 http://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/blogs/early-doors/es_Pardew.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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