Dave Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Pardew would get loads of sympathy from me regarding the situation above him if I believed he was a decent manager and not a pathological liar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 HTT is right though, and it isn't harsh. You can be as articulate as you like but defend that muppet and you sort of show yourself up as being a bit "Kev from the club" when it comes to football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 As regards to David Moyes, if you ever watch Everton under his watch any game where he plays against opposition he perceives as better than his team he will always say they will be lucky to get out with a point or something along those lines. My Everton supporting mate absolutely despised the fact he was always so cautious and so negative regarding the team, do you really think that you as a supporter will not get tired of hearing how much better Manchester United, Manchester City, Tottenham, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal and Chelsea etc are every time we play them? Pardew does that with every team we face. Meh, he's our manager and I support him because I am obligated to. I do not take the piss out of people just because they fail at their jobs, that removes them of their agency as a person. I don't think i've ever seen someone surrender an arguement so quickly and meekly before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Houghton had the same situation, but he goes to bed every night with his morals firmly in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 The kind of person who has heated debates as to who's the quickest out of Ronaldo and Messi over a game of dominos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Pardew would get loads of sympathy from me regarding the situation above him if I believed he was a decent manager and not a pathological liar. Massively. Or like that lad said on the phone-in the other day if he just admitted he was glad to be in the job and didn't always justify our transfer (in)activity. Suppose that steps on your point about him being a liar. In my opinion, he's one of the worst men ever to be associated with the club. Not a shred of integrity. Couldn't lace someone like Glenn Roeder's boots in that respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Fuck it: Alan Pardew is worse than Mike Ashley. The latter is a total cunt whose policies are backward and who owns the club for the wrong reasons; but I still believe the 'license to dream' can exist within an Ashley-run NUFC. But not with an Ashley-run NUFC whose manager is Pardew. For a start, consider the club's attitude towards cup competitions. The 'Europa League effect' did contribute to our poor domestic campaign last season; I don't think you can argue against that. However, the issues that came with participation in that tournament were minor, and exaggerated by the manager (which then rubbed off on the players). It became an easy excuse and, through Pardew exacerbating the effect it was having on the squad, ultimately a symptom almost entirely of his own making. The simple fact is: Alan Pardew isn't a good enough manager to juggle a domestic campaign with cup competitions. As a result of this, the club's entire policy is to avoid the Europa League and 'not to prioritise' the domestic cups. Imagine if we had a manager who was competent and was capable of juggling cup competitions with the Premier League? Ashley's policy wouldn't then be so anti-victory. This is just one example. Ashley knows fuck all about football so goes off what his 'football men' serve him. Pardew showed that, if you're an incompetent cunt, cup competitions aren't worth it. Hey presto, line 1 of the club instruction manual becomes: NO CUPS. Honestly, the whole 'Mike Ashley burden' is the same thing that gets trotted out by every Pardew apologist and it is utter, stinking bullshit. That's before we've even mentioned the fact that Pardew is entirely complicit in the wank transfer policy. I fucking detest Ashley for choosing bellends like Pardew and Kinnear in the first place. That alone is grounds for beheading. I'm not excusing Ashley. I'm saying the club is still 'supportable', in the tangible (not-quite)-traditional sense, even with him as big boss. Just not as long as Pards is here. I know what you meant dude. But for me, it just means that I still detest the billionaire cunt more than his lickspittle employee. Pardew is just a plague on football. Ashley is pretty much a pox on everything under the sun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 There are no redeeming features about Pardew or his NUFC side whatsoever, nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 He has deliberately, and frequently, maliciously denigrated both the club and the fans for the last 2 years because he's not good enough to do the job and not man enough to admit it. That should be unforgivable on it's own before team selections etc and Mike Ashley come into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 There are no redeeming features about Pardew or his NUFC side whatsoever, nothing. Like a phoenix from the flaaaaames. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 He has deliberately, and frequently, maliciously denigrated both the club and the fans for the last 2 years because he's not good enough to do the job and not man enough to admit it. That should be unforgivable on it's own before team selections etc and Mike Ashley come into it. He's tried to take the club down to his level and in many ways he's managed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 He has deliberately, and frequently, maliciously denigrated both the club and the fans for the last 2 years because he's not good enough to do the job and not man enough to admit it. That should be unforgivable on it's own before team selections etc and Mike Ashley come into it. Absolutely right. Happy Face's Stockholm Syndrome thingy was totally spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Honestly I think I'd fap myself into oblivion if I got such a powerful agreement to one of my posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Pardew is basically the Thank You For Smoking guy to Ashley's Big Tobacco, except on a much more detestable, less articulate and less charming level. But as much as I despise the cunt, the buck will always stop with his slimy overlord for unleashing Kinnear and him on us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 There has to be another way in which I can basically say that he's both irrevocably shit and an unquantifiable cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Fuck it: Alan Pardew is worse than Mike Ashley. The latter is a total cunt whose policies are backward and who owns the club for the wrong reasons; but I still believe the 'license to dream' can exist within an Ashley-run NUFC. But not with an Ashley-run NUFC whose manager is Pardew. For a start, consider the club's attitude towards cup competitions. The 'Europa League effect' did contribute to our poor domestic campaign last season; I don't think you can argue against that. However, the issues that came with participation in that tournament were minor, and exaggerated by the manager (which then rubbed off on the players). It became an easy excuse and, through Pardew exacerbating the effect it was having on the squad, ultimately a symptom almost entirely of his own making. The simple fact is: Alan Pardew isn't a good enough manager to juggle a domestic campaign with cup competitions. As a result of this, the club's entire policy is to avoid the Europa League and 'not to prioritise' the domestic cups. Imagine if we had a manager who was competent and was capable of juggling cup competitions with the Premier League? Ashley's policy wouldn't then be so anti-victory. This is just one example. Ashley knows fuck all about football so goes off what his 'football men' serve him. Pardew showed that, if you're an incompetent cunt, cup competitions aren't worth it. Hey presto, line 1 of the club instruction manual becomes: NO CUPS. Honestly, the whole 'Mike Ashley burden' is the same thing that gets trotted out by every Pardew apologist and it is utter, stinking bullshit. That's before we've even mentioned the fact that Pardew is entirely complicit in the wank transfer policy. I fucking detest Ashley for choosing bellends like Pardew and Kinnear in the first place. That alone is grounds for beheading. I'm not excusing Ashley. I'm saying the club is still 'supportable', in the tangible (not-quite)-traditional sense, even with him as big boss. Just not as long as Pards is here. I know what you meant dude. But for me, it just means that I still detest the billionaire cunt more than his lickspittle employee. Pardew is just a plague on football. Ashley is pretty much a pox on everything under the sun. How can you detest Ashley yet defend his lickspittle choice of manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 When did I defend Pardew? apart from that alternate universe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 To an extent Ashley employing Kinnear and Pardew is like Pardew playing Shola and Gosling. Ish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtained Wasp Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Thieving Magpie couldn't be more of a WUM if he had a job winding up Big Ben tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 There has to be another way in which I can basically say that he's both irrevocably shit and an unquantifiable cunt. Well it seems like you'd need to qualify why you'd take the piss out of him for being irrevocably shit. New development. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 When did I defend Pardew? apart from that alternate universe. You didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 When did I defend Pardew? apart from that alternate universe. To be fair to Tron "plague on football" is quite easy to misinterpret. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Unless I misread, TRon was more than just implying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 When did I defend Pardew? apart from that alternate universe. By turning up in this thread to divert the blame to Ashley. there's a thread for Ashley in case you missed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Settle down man Tron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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