Swansea City 3 - 0 Newcastle United - 04/12/13 - post-match reaction from p37

[Ikon]

Now that i've had some time to get some perspective, im content again

[Guest bimpy474]

Common denominator is that we have shipped 5 goals since Colo replaced MYM in the side

 

Very true that.

[Chizzletooth]

Poor for long stretches but the "no strikers and they scored 3 argh its so embarrassing" thing doesn't really wash.

 

First goal: utter howler from Krul.

 

Second goal: miracle of an OG

 

Third goal: howler from Krul. Guy who scored shouldn't be on the pitch.

 

Webb gave us absolutely nothing. We've had similar levels of performance in other games and come away with points. By far my biggest gripe is how they absolutely packed it in after the second goal. Shameful.

 

 

[nufc4eva]

Now that i've had some time to get some perspective, im content again

 

I looked at the table and realised it ain't too bad, however think Champs league has gone for us once more

[Guest palnese]

Why did Swansea score just before half time and then come out still trying to play football? Why didn't they batten down the hatches and give us the ball?

 

Time to come up with something new. This is getting rather boring.

 

Is he wrong ?

 

Not at all, but there are posts like that every day on here. It's not funny anymore.

[madras]

Common denominator is that we have shipped 5 goals since Colo replaced MYM in the side

 

Very true that.

quite poor goals defensively at that.

[Wullie]

Why did Swansea score just before half time and then come out still trying to play football? Why didn't they batten down the hatches and give us the ball?

 

Time to come up with something new. This is getting rather boring.

 

You're telling me. Pig sick of it, have been for three years.

[Pilko]

I feel like I say this a lot, but every single time we seem to have really shan luck and a fucking shit referee, we also play like a bunch of wankers and deserve nowt anyway.

 

[Ikon]

Now that i've had some time to get some perspective, im content again

 

I looked at the table and realised it ain't too bad, however think Champs league has gone for us once more

 

Not sure if serious???

[Guest bimpy474]

Why did Swansea score just before half time and then come out still trying to play football? Why didn't they batten down the hatches and give us the ball?

 

Time to come up with something new. This is getting rather boring.

 

Is he wrong ?

 

Not at all, but there are posts like that every day on here. It's not funny anymore.

 

Not sure Wullie finds it funny, probably sick to death of seeing it happen.

[Guest palnese]

Why did Swansea score just before half time and then come out still trying to play football? Why didn't they batten down the hatches and give us the ball?

 

Time to come up with something new. This is getting rather boring.

 

You're telling me. Pig sick of it, have been for three years.

 

[Tachikoma]

A result like that was always going to around the corner.  Not massively concerned as I don't believe we can finish in the top 7 any-case.

 

We can though Neesy. We definitely have the team to. Whether we do is another matter.

 

1st 11 yes, squad not a chance.

 

The depth we have in the centerbacks and strikers isn't great, but how many teams have 2 good players in every position outside the top 5? Very debatable as to what our best 11 should be anyway.

[ElDiablo]

At least we don't have to stew on this for too long.

[tmonkey]

Kneejerk opinion time:

 

Judging Swansea by the handful of games I've seen:

 

Swansea have p*ss poor-to-average players who are simply coached exceptionally well in a style of play that makes them significantly greater than the sum of their parts. They play moderately attacking, penetrative, creative football with surprisingly smart linkup and quick, confident interchanging between the entire team, allowing complex team moves to build. Their points come from being effective as a team.

 

Judging us by the past few years:

 

We have average-to-good players who are coached exceptionally poorly in a style of play that makes us significantly less than the sum of our parts. We play dull, defensive, workman-like football with minimal linkup play and interchanging that is usually limited to two players passing it between themselves a couple of times at most, leading to very basic "team moves" that inevitably results in a hopeful, blind punt into the penalty box. Our points come from those good players capable of regularly putting in excellent performances here and there and a reliance on the opposition being consistently s***/wasteful in the final third.

 

 

[Mole_Toonfan]

Pards is s***. End of story.

 

I could understand him ditching the 4-3-3 previously, as it was a formation you never felt was his thing.

 

But the 4-4-2? That we were just settling so well into? Why the f*** would he do that? After 5 mins?

 

 

 

Probably because Swansea were over running tiote and cabaye and we needed more numbers, not that it worked

 

It did actually work while it was 1-0.... we were getting on top and should have had a penalty they go down the other end and score an incredibly jammy goal.

 

After that it was over, as we all know no Pardew side can come back from 2-0.... 4-0 doesn't count.

[nufc4eva]

Now that i've had some time to get some perspective, im content again

 

I looked at the table and realised it ain't too bad, however think Champs league has gone for us once more

 

Not sure if serious???

 

Clearly not - will finish anywhere between 12th and 9th

[Guest bimpy474]

Common denominator is that we have shipped 5 goals since Colo replaced MYM in the side

 

Very true that.

quite poor goals defensively at that.

 

Is it time to accept he is on a downward spiral. Not just because of the football either.

[Guest palnese]

Why did Swansea score just before half time and then come out still trying to play football? Why didn't they batten down the hatches and give us the ball?

 

Time to come up with something new. This is getting rather boring.

 

Is he wrong ?

 

Not at all, but there are posts like that every day on here. It's not funny anymore.

 

Not sure Wullie finds it funny, probably sick to death of seeing it happen.

 

Aye, I know, just fucking sick of reading it every fucking day I've got nowt against Wullie and I understand his frustatration. I think we're all sick of it.

[ponsaelius]

Kneejerk opinion time:

 

Judging Swansea by the handful of games I've seen:

 

Swansea have p*ss poor-to-average players who are simply coached exceptionally well in a style of play that makes them significantly greater than the sum of their parts. They play moderately attacking, penetrative, creative football with surprisingly smart linkup and quick, confident interchanging between the entire team, allowing complex team moves to build. Their points come from being effective as a team.

 

Judging us by the past few years:

 

We have average-to-good players who are coached exceptionally poorly in a style of play that makes us significantly less than the sum of our parts. We play dull, defensive, workman-like football with minimal linkup play and interchanging that is usually limited to two players passing it between themselves a couple of times at most, leading to very basic "team moves" that inevitably results in a hopeful, blind punt into the penalty box. Our points come from those good players capable of regularly putting in excellent performances here and there and a reliance on the opposition being consistently s***/wasteful in the final third.

 

Would say that is an excellent summarisation tbh, nothing kneejerk about it.

[Dave]

Disapppointed with Krul for the first goal like, a good goalkeeper doesn't make a basic error like that. Caused us to go in a goal down and probably scared Pardew to death. We all know how reliant we are on getting a good foothold in the match and scoring first where possible. Crucial fuckup, that.

 

I don't get people saying 3-0 is harsh though, they dominated the ball, made and scored three goals and forced Krul into a few other saves. What did Vorm really have to do aside from save Remy's header first half? They played well and deserved the comfortable victory. Something we haven't had in fucking ages.

[Guest Snags]

Ah, a good 3-0 loss.  That's more like it!  :-\

 

[nufc4eva]

Kneejerk opinion time:

 

Judging Swansea by the handful of games I've seen:

 

Swansea have p*ss poor-to-average players who are simply coached exceptionally well in a style of play that makes them significantly greater than the sum of their parts. They play moderately attacking, penetrative, creative football with surprisingly smart linkup and quick, confident interchanging between the entire team, allowing complex team moves to build. Their points come from being effective as a team.

 

Judging us by the past few years:

 

We have average-to-good players who are coached exceptionally poorly in a style of play that makes us significantly less than the sum of our parts. We play dull, defensive, workman-like football with minimal linkup play and interchanging that is usually limited to two players passing it between themselves a couple of times at most, leading to very basic "team moves" that inevitably results in a hopeful, blind punt into the penalty box. Our points come from those good players capable of regularly putting in excellent performances here and there and a reliance on the opposition being consistently s***/wasteful in the final third.

 

 

 

Not worth analysing to that depth.

 

Summed up

 

We was shit

 

They was less shit

[Yorkie]

Kneejerk opinion time:

 

Judging Swansea by the handful of games I've seen:

 

Swansea have piss poor-to-average players who are simply coached exceptionally well in a style of play that makes them significantly greater than the sum of their parts. They play moderately attacking, penetrative, creative football with surprisingly smart linkup and quick, confident interchanging between the entire team, allowing complex team moves to build. Their points come from being effective as a team.

 

I don't even think they're that good. They're exceptionally ordinary, especially without Michu. From the first whistle we said "don't worry about us - you do your thing!" which gave them the impetus and, by the end, they were brimming with confidence and embarrassed us. All we because we started the game without a semblance of wanting to compete, save for a counter-attack here and there. It won't work against beatable teams like Swansea.

 

EDIT: your theory is completely sound, though. They're better than the sum of their parts, we're worse than ours, the difference is the managers.

[nufc4eva]

Ah, a good 3-0 loss.  That's more like it!  ::-\

 

Never just a 1-0 or 2-1, why do we collapse so bad all the time

[Beren]

Kneejerk opinion time:

 

Judging Swansea by the handful of games I've seen:

 

Swansea have p*ss poor-to-average players who are simply coached exceptionally well in a style of play that makes them significantly greater than the sum of their parts. They play moderately attacking, penetrative, creative football with surprisingly smart linkup and quick, confident interchanging between the entire team, allowing complex team moves to build. Their points come from being effective as a team.

 

Judging us by the past few years:

 

We have average-to-good players who are coached exceptionally poorly in a style of play that makes us significantly less than the sum of our parts. We play dull, defensive, workman-like football with minimal linkup play and interchanging that is usually limited to two players passing it between themselves a couple of times at most, leading to very basic "team moves" that inevitably results in a hopeful, blind punt into the penalty box. Our points come from those good players capable of regularly putting in excellent performances here and there and a reliance on the opposition being consistently s***/wasteful in the final third.