Gaztoon Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 4 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Another tax payer funded stadium in Manchester would be a kick in the teeth for the rest of the country. Convenient way of getting around all the financial regs too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Be an absolute disgrace if they get a new stadium paid for by the taxpayer . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, Yorkie said: Just to be on brand, I think Southgate would be a very sensible appointment for them. His greatest achievement with England (so far) has been to eliminate the toxicity and dysfunctional nature of the squad; and if there's one club out there that needs a culture change, it's Man Utd. Obviously the Ashworth connection will work in their favour too, with senior figures finally singing from the same hymn sheet for once. Plus he's got the steely "couldn't give a fuck" resilience, and experience of the highest level games, to cope with the pressure of the job. Different type of job of course and his tactical limitations might be more exposed at club level, but there's a lot about it which makes sense. Agree in that he's got a certain 'statesman like' quality about him Southgate but that goes out the window if he's losing matches regularly, as their fans won't fancy him one bit imho. From a credibility viewpoint, it would be a joke worthy appointment for many, which will become a source of embarrassment for their fans fairly quickly I'd imagine. In some ways I can see the logic in appointing him but it only works if he gets off to a blinding start and doesn't have any streaky runs of form. That's fucking high risk when you look at the character of their squad over the last fews years. He'll also be tested tactically by better managers than him most weeks. Pep, Arteta, Howe, RDZ, Poch etc would all be light years ahead of him tactically imho. Edited May 13, 2024 by Minhosa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 4 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Be an absolute disgrace if they get a new stadium paid for by the taxpayer . Yet you can see it coming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Tax dodging chancer wants to use the public purse for a new stadium rather than putting his hand in his own pocket. Quelle surprise! The bloke is a fucking pleb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 3 minutes ago, CallumG6 said: Tax dodging chancer wants to use the public purse for a new stadium rather than putting his hand in his own pocket. Quelle surprise! The bloke is a fucking pleb. If he has the tax payer paying for his stadium whilst he continues to rack up billions you might want to reassess who the actual plebs are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 37 minutes ago, Menace said: I don't see the hype with Southgate - I think he's a pretty poor manager in all honestly. That Euro final - Mancini got the better off him tactically and it showed how amateurish he is to make big changes that can really change a game. Considering this is England's golden team his record against bigger team is patchy at best. 5 year contract for him at Man U please. 100% with you on this. He's had some serious talent to work with for England recently too, which won't necessary be the case at Man United, at least initially. The football isn't really flowing either and can be quite defensive and clunky. Then worst of all, the fans will be sceptical to begin with and will be itching to have a go at him for every little thing. The pressure would be immense. Very much looking forward to it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Bunch of cunts the lot of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: If he has the tax payer paying for his stadium whilst he continues to rack up billions you might want to reassess who the actual plebs are. Aye. Call him whatever you want but the bloke is clearly not an idiot lets be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 1 hour ago, Geogaddi said: Be an absolute disgrace if they get a new stadium paid for by the taxpayer . I don't see how this is in any way possible. Which part of government would be paying, and how would they justify it? Maybe the Tories would try to sneak it in before they get ousted, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: If he has the tax payer paying for his stadium whilst he continues to rack up billions you might want to reassess who the actual plebs are. Good point, but the majority will be rightly furious if public funds are used in this nature. Maybe I'm being naive but I can't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Between Chelsea circumventing PSR rules with their dodgy inner dealings and Lord tales of the crypt avoiding stadium finances using taxpayers (ironically he's not one of them) money it really does stick a massive neon sign above the 2 tiered policing of the PL teams and their financing. Its bad enough for any team looking at the sly 6 from the outside but Everton and Forest must be foaming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Cunts the lot of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Why do we have a Man Utd thread, out of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 1 minute ago, lovejoy said: Why do we have a Man Utd thread, out of interest? It helps Froggy get the attention he craves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Jinx Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 14 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said: Stadium rebuilds aside, why couldn’t they just get someone up on the roof to repair a leak? Couldn’t cost that much surely. Are they worried the whole thing is about to come down or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said: Stadium rebuilds aside, why couldn’t they just get someone up on the roof to repair a leak? Couldn’t cost that much surely. Are they worried the whole thing is about to come down or something? I don’t think it’s just the roof. There was water coming through the ceiling of the away dressing room. Hopefully the PL will have staff there to ensure it’s safe for our players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 They should ground share with city. Surely you could get that patched up and fixed in pre season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, andycap said: They should ground share with city. Surely you could get that patched up and fixed in pre season. They’ve done it before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 8 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: They’ve done it before Done what? Patched it up or groundshare? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 12 hours ago, Yorkie said: Just to be on brand, I think Southgate would be a very sensible appointment for them. His greatest achievement with England (so far) has been to eliminate the toxicity and dysfunctional nature of the squad; and if there's one club out there that needs a culture change, it's Man Utd. Obviously the Ashworth connection will work in their favour too, with senior figures finally singing from the same hymn sheet for once. Plus he's got the steely "couldn't give a fuck" resilience, and experience of the highest level games, to cope with the pressure of the job. Different type of job of course and his tactical limitations might be more exposed at club level, but there's a lot about it which makes sense. I know Southgate gets a lot of credit for that, and I'm not trying to take too much away from him in that regard but I think in general the English players get on much better with each other these days either way. Probably helped a lot by the fact there's no really fierce and nasty rivalries between the top sides over here these days. It's a totally different challenge trying to motivate players on 300/400k a week who can't really be arsed. Tactically the premier league and champions league are far more difficult than International football too. I genuinely think he'd struggle and be an uninspiring appointment for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 1 hour ago, Dancing Brave said: Lovely update to Wikipedia: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 13, 2024 Share Posted May 13, 2024 Southgate doesn’t like to get his hands dirty by actually making any tough decisions. Perfect for the FA because he just goes through the motions and respects the hierarchy above him. The players like him because he’s not a threat. Then if the players succeed through collective ability he’s more than happy to pick up the plaudits. He’d tick a lot of those boxes at Man Utd, a good company man.. and the players will like him because they’ll walk all over him and he’ll never let on he’s not in control. But the amount of games in a season will soon find him out. It’s a total myth that International football is the very highest level, at least tactically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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