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4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Another tax payer funded stadium in Manchester would be a kick in the teeth for the rest of the country. 

 

Convenient way of getting around all the financial regs too.

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10 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Just to be on brand, I think Southgate would be a very sensible appointment for them. His greatest achievement with England (so far) has been to eliminate the toxicity and dysfunctional nature of the squad; and if there's one club out there that needs a culture change, it's Man Utd. Obviously the Ashworth connection will work in their favour too, with senior figures finally singing from the same hymn sheet for once. Plus he's got the steely "couldn't give a fuck" resilience, and experience of the highest level games, to cope with the pressure of the job.

 

Different type of job of course and his tactical limitations might be more exposed at club level, but there's a lot about it which makes sense.

Agree in that he's got a certain 'statesman like' quality about him Southgate but that goes out the window if he's losing matches regularly, as their fans won't fancy him one bit imho.

 

From a credibility viewpoint, it would be a joke worthy appointment for many, which will become a source of embarrassment for their fans fairly quickly I'd imagine.

 

In some ways I can see the logic in appointing him but it only works if he gets off to a blinding start and doesn't have any streaky runs of form.

 

That's fucking high risk when you look at the character of their squad over the last fews years.

 

He'll also be tested tactically by better managers than him most weeks.

 

Pep, Arteta, Howe, RDZ, Poch etc would all be light years ahead of him tactically imho.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, CallumG6 said:

Tax dodging chancer wants to use the public purse for a new stadium rather than putting his hand in his own pocket. 

Quelle surprise! The bloke is a fucking pleb.

If he has the tax payer paying for his stadium whilst he continues to rack up billions you might want to reassess who the actual plebs are. 

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37 minutes ago, Menace said:

I don't see the hype with Southgate - I think he's a pretty poor manager in all honestly. That Euro final - Mancini got the better off him tactically and it showed how amateurish he is to make big changes that can really change a game. Considering this is England's golden team his record against bigger team is patchy at best. 5 year contract for him at Man U please.

 

 

 

 

100% with you on this.

 

He's had some serious talent to work with for England recently too, which won't necessary be the case at Man United, at least initially.

 

The football isn't really flowing either and can be quite defensive and clunky.

 

Then worst of all, the fans will be sceptical to begin with and will be itching to have a go at him for every little thing. The pressure would be immense.

 

Very much looking forward to it!

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1 hour ago, r0cafella said:

If he has the tax payer paying for his stadium whilst he continues to rack up billions you might want to reassess who the actual plebs are. 

Aye. Call him whatever you want but the bloke is clearly not an idiot lets be honest.

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1 hour ago, Geogaddi said:

Be an absolute disgrace if they get a new stadium paid for by the taxpayer .

 

I don't see how this is in any way possible. Which part of government would be paying, and how would they justify it?

 

Maybe the Tories would try to sneak it in before they get ousted, I guess. 

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1 hour ago, r0cafella said:

If he has the tax payer paying for his stadium whilst he continues to rack up billions you might want to reassess who the actual plebs are. 


Good point, but the majority will be rightly furious if public funds are used in this nature. Maybe I'm being naive but I can't see it. 

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Between Chelsea circumventing PSR rules with their dodgy inner dealings and Lord tales of the crypt avoiding stadium finances using taxpayers (ironically he's not one of them) money it really does stick a massive neon sign above the 2 tiered policing of the PL teams and their financing. Its bad enough for any team looking at the sly 6 from the outside but Everton and Forest must be foaming.

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14 minutes ago, Dancing Brave said:

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Stadium rebuilds aside, why couldn’t they just get someone up on the roof to repair a leak? Couldn’t cost that much surely.

 

Are they worried the whole thing is about to come down or something?

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1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said:


Stadium rebuilds aside, why couldn’t they just get someone up on the roof to repair a leak? Couldn’t cost that much surely.

 

Are they worried the whole thing is about to come down or something?


I don’t think it’s just the roof. There was water coming through the ceiling of the away dressing room. Hopefully the PL will have staff there to ensure it’s safe for our players.

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12 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Just to be on brand, I think Southgate would be a very sensible appointment for them. His greatest achievement with England (so far) has been to eliminate the toxicity and dysfunctional nature of the squad; and if there's one club out there that needs a culture change, it's Man Utd. Obviously the Ashworth connection will work in their favour too, with senior figures finally singing from the same hymn sheet for once. Plus he's got the steely "couldn't give a fuck" resilience, and experience of the highest level games, to cope with the pressure of the job.

 

Different type of job of course and his tactical limitations might be more exposed at club level, but there's a lot about it which makes sense.

 

I know Southgate gets a lot of credit for that, and I'm not trying to take too much away from him in that regard but I think in general the English players get on much better with each other these days either way. Probably helped a lot by the fact there's no really fierce and nasty rivalries between the top sides over here these days. 

 

It's a totally different challenge trying to motivate players on 300/400k a week who can't really be arsed. Tactically the premier league and champions league are far more difficult than International football too. I genuinely think he'd struggle and be an uninspiring appointment for them. 

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Southgate doesn’t like to get his hands dirty by actually making any tough decisions. Perfect for the FA because he just goes through the motions and respects the hierarchy above him.

 

The players like him because he’s not a threat.

 

Then if the players succeed through collective ability he’s more than happy to pick up the plaudits.

 

He’d tick a lot of those boxes at Man Utd, a good company man.. and the players will like him because they’ll walk all over him and he’ll never let on he’s not in control.

 

But the amount of games in a season will soon find him out.

 

It’s a total myth that International football is the very highest level, at least tactically.

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