KDT Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Urgh. It's not impossible and shouldn't it be taken as a personal attack at you for someone to have a different opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Okay - both key players at the time. Did Clichy sign under Mancini? Mancini's a good manager but he's not in Wengers league. But then again you're clearly just nit-picking. You haven't spoken about Wenger/Klopp losing their best players and not attracting world Xmas talents (Ozil aside). Or what built the core of Man Utd's latest successful side. Because you know I'm right, you just want to pick small issues. It's another of your stating the bleeding obvious posts except this time you've decorated it with a factually incorrect statement . Wenger got Santa Cazorla anyway he must be the worldliest Xmas talent . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Who is Santa Cazorla and what are you talking about? You know what, don't bother to reply. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Okay - both key players at the time. Did Clichy sign under Mancini? Mancini's a good manager but he's not in Wengers league. But then again you're clearly just nit-picking. You haven't spoken about Wenger/Klopp losing their best players and not attracting world Xmas talents (Ozil aside). Or what built the core of Man Utd's latest successful side. Because you know I'm right, you just want to pick small issues. To reply to your previous post, what the flying fuck is a world Xmas talent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Autocorrect on the iPhone man. There's 100 words there for you to understand the context I'm referring to. I meant world class. But go on keep nit-picking at small issues rather than address the salient point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Santa Cazorla and world xmas talent...have i missed some sort of joke here in the Man Utd thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Froggy ate this really hot chilli and then Moyes was really bad at football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I think the majority of players do go for money but the importance a manager can have on bringing talent to a club shouldn't be underestimated, which i think CD is doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I was just thinking of the certainty of someone like Fergie/Mourinho. Players might think "well they're not in the CL this season but he'll get them back in soon enough". With Moyes, it's a bit question mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 In recent memory, how many top transfers have been dependent on the manager? I can only think of RVP. Thiago perhaps? The bigger issue for Man Utd is the negotiations. They don't know what they are doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 In recent memory, how many top transfers have been dependent on the manager? I can only think of RVP. Thiago perhaps? The bigger issue for Man Utd is the negotiations. They don't know what they are doing. Conjecture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Arsenal were a team struggling to compete for the league title and having a constant battle to finish in the top 4 at the time, RVP left for the title winners who had been Champions League finalists the season before. I’m sure he received a nice pay rise as well but there were football reasons behind it. I can’t really speak for Tiago but he left to join the best team in Europe who had recently appointed a manager who had been a mentor to him. I suspect that as with any transfer where the player is joining a ‘better’ team a pay-rise will have been given as he can’t have been on a great wage with his contract at Barca. In terms of how Man Utd would be able to recruit a better standard of player than they currently have I’m sure a tour of the stadium and a quick look in the trophy cabinet will have a say. They are still one of the biggest clubs in the world and will still pay players top money. If they do manage to get Champions League qualification which still isn’t out of the question for this season they’ll have a fine standing with potential transfer targets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Autocorrect on the iPhone man. There's 100 words there for you to understand the context I'm referring to. I meant world class. But go on keep nit-picking at small issues rather than address the salient point. There is no salient point save players join Manchester City or Chelsea purely for financial reasons. I still think Manchester United's history is a massive pulling point and the same goes for Liverpool. Whereas Arsenal have Arsene Wenger as their pulling point. I guess we have SJP and the loyal following as ours. Manchester United will still attract top quality players without the CL I would guarantee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Autocorrect on the iPhone man. There's 100 words there for you to understand the context I'm referring to. I meant world class. But go on keep nit-picking at small issues rather than address the salient point. There is no salient point save players join Manchester City or Chelsea purely for financial reasons. I still think Manchester United's history is a massive pulling point and the same goes for Liverpool. Whereas Arsenal have Arsene Wenger as their pulling point. I guess we have SJP and the loyal following as ours. Manchester United will still attract top quality players without the CL I would guarantee. At the end of your day I agree with that last part. I think for us, it's money mostly too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 £35m for Mata. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Who is Santa Cazorla and what are you talking about? You know what, don't bother to reply. Cheers. you need to relax man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Sky are saying they have offered 40m for Mata through a third party. Isn't third party ownership of any kind against Premier League rules? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Kinnear gave them a ring at Fergie's request. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Strange the third party thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Kinnear gave them a ring at Fergie's request. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 It boggles the mind that they're seemingly not hunting for a blue chip central midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 No idea where Mata fits into that Man U side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 It boggles the mind that they're seemingly not hunting for a blue chip central midfielder. Or that they haven't been looking every transfer window for about the last 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 No idea where Mata fits into that Man U side. Phil Jones Valencia Mata Rooney Januzaj Welbeck Kagawa Young Van Persie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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