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No idea where Mata fits into that Man U side.

 

                                Phil Jones

 

 

 

Valencia Mata Rooney Januzaj Welbeck Kagawa Young

                                Van Persie

 

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Surprised Chelsea are demanding such a high price for a player that isn't even getting a game for them. That is if the figure is true of course.

 

Why wouldn't they? He's a good player wanted by their rivals.  Who wouldn't try to bleed them a bit.

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Moyes is such a creep with that Januzaj. He's obsessed with him being some sort of super hero.

 

The guy was playing really well out wide, where by the way, no one else has performed consistently well for them all season, so what does he do?

 

He forces him in a central role, to make him more of a star or whatever ... so now they're back to getting nothing from the wings.

 

In addition to this, the likes of Kagawa and Hernandez are now playing second fiddle to the cheeky Tom Daley wannabe. In reality one of those two should be central with Welbeck while Rooney and Van Persie are out.

 

 

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Mata can be to Mat Utd what Arteta was to Everton. I don't buy all this not a Man Utd type player. Mata is good enough to play anywhere in midfield providing the system and football s flexible. Although I doubt Moyes is capable of that kind of stuff.

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Not really sure what you mean there, Mata and Arteta aren't similar at all ???

I'd probably play Mata on the right, Januzaj on the left and Rooney in the middle should they get him.

 

Didn't Arteta play a lot on the right and to good effect even though he wasn't a right sided midfielder? Anyway what I'm saying is that Moyes has in the past at least shown himself capable of fitting in players even if they at first don't seem to fit the team. I wouldn't be blowing 35-40m on him mind. That would probably get them Cabaye and Ben Arfa who would instantly transform them.

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Ferguson liked a work ethic from his attacking players too barring the odd one.

 

Mourinho more so.  He ruined Duff, Robben and Cole at Chelsea first time round and now axing Chelsea's best player by a mile last season to favour more hardworking players like Oscar and Willian, as good as they are.

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Ferguson liked a work ethic from his attacking players too barring the odd one.

 

Mourinho more so.  He ruined Duff, Robben and Cole at Chelsea first time round and now axing Chelsea's best player by a mile last season to favour more hardworking players like Oscar and Willian, as good as they are.

 

In Mourinho's first season, Duff and Robben were immense, easily the two best wide players in the league and arguably Europe. They couldn't sustain that work like a dog while also attack like a world-beater type game though. Duff did try and that's probably what knacked him. Robben gave up and eventually refound his form at Real for a spell, but mostly at Bayern.

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Moyes is clearly the X-Factor here.

 

If this Wenger or someone of that type, i would say Mata, Rooney and Januzaj behind Van Persie would be class especially with Evra and Rafael bombing on the overlap.

 

But i don't know how Moyes is going to re-jink the side to make it all work, be interesting to see how he uses Mata if this goes through as that front 4 is not really something i would see Moyes doing.

 

They still have other problems but that will come you would think.

 

 

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Ferguson liked a work ethic from his attacking players too barring the odd one.

 

Mourinho more so.  He ruined Duff, Robben and Cole at Chelsea first time round and now axing Chelsea's best player by a mile last season to favour more hardworking players like Oscar and Willian, as good as they are.

 

In Mourinho's first season, Duff and Robben were immense, easily the two best wide players in the league and arguably Europe. They couldn't sustain that work like a dog while also attack like a world-beater type game though. Duff did try and that's probably what knacked him. Robben gave up and eventually refound his form at Real for a spell, but mostly at Bayern.

 

Duff best in Europe? What are you on about?

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Ferguson liked a work ethic from his attacking players too barring the odd one.

 

Mourinho more so.  He ruined Duff, Robben and Cole at Chelsea first time round and now axing Chelsea's best player by a mile last season to favour more hardworking players like Oscar and Willian, as good as they are.

 

In Mourinho's first season, Duff and Robben were immense, easily the two best wide players in the league and arguably Europe. They couldn't sustain that work like a dog while also attack like a world-beater type game though. Duff did try and that's probably what knacked him. Robben gave up and eventually refound his form at Real for a spell, but mostly at Bayern.

 

Duff best in Europe? What are you on about?

 

In his first year under Mourinho he was brilliant, he scored goals, set them up, worked his behind off and looked like a17m winger which is what he cost. He was world-class.

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Ferguson liked a work ethic from his attacking players too barring the odd one.

 

Mourinho more so.  He ruined Duff, Robben and Cole at Chelsea first time round and now axing Chelsea's best player by a mile last season to favour more hardworking players like Oscar and Willian, as good as they are.

 

In Mourinho's first season, Duff and Robben were immense, easily the two best wide players in the league and arguably Europe. They couldn't sustain that work like a dog while also attack like a world-beater type game though. Duff did try and that's probably what knacked him. Robben gave up and eventually refound his form at Real for a spell, but mostly at Bayern.

 

Duff best in Europe? What are you on about?

 

In his first year under Mourinho he was brilliant, he scored goals, set them up, worked his behind off and looked like a17m winger which is what he cost. He was world-class.

 

And not long after he was afraid to take a player on, more concerned about tracking back and working hard.

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Ferguson liked a work ethic from his attacking players too barring the odd one.

 

Mourinho more so.  He ruined Duff, Robben and Cole at Chelsea first time round and now axing Chelsea's best player by a mile last season to favour more hardworking players like Oscar and Willian, as good as they are.

 

In Mourinho's first season, Duff and Robben were immense, easily the two best wide players in the league and arguably Europe. They couldn't sustain that work like a dog while also attack like a world-beater type game though. Duff did try and that's probably what knacked him. Robben gave up and eventually refound his form at Real for a spell, but mostly at Bayern.

 

Duff best in Europe? What are you on about?

 

In his first year under Mourinho he was brilliant, he scored goals, set them up, worked his behind off and looked like a17m winger which is what he cost. He was world-class.

 

Oh absolutely, but we're talking best in Europe -> Best in the world, and he and Robben were never arguably the two best wingers in Europe.

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