Deuce Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 This is a business, first and foremost. It's unrealistic to expect footballers to retain any sort of club loyalty. And I really don't think his actions warrant the foaming-at-the-mouth vitriol that's gone on since he signed. Sorry, but no way am I having that. Cunts like Mike Ashley might see football "first and foremost as a business," but supporters don't. It's a love, it's a lifestyle. It's a fucking game, where loyalty exists. He grew up all his life supporting NUFC the same as the majority of us then went out of his way to shit on every single fan of this club whilst playing for them lot. The prick dug his own grave and now he can lie in it. For fans, sure. For the majority of players? Nope. The football of your grandfather's generation doesn't exist anymore. Do what you're gonna do. I don't feel like it's worth my time wasting energy on a player I'm not remotely offended by, particularly when there are far more serious issues surrounding this club with which to take offense. What part of football "being a business" made him repeatedly act like a cunt though? Unless it was in his contract to do so I don't see the connection. Simply because PL football is primarily a business doesn't mean it's not also a game with clubs and supporters. They're not mutually exclusive. Like I said, I don't care why he did what he did. I don't much care about him at all. I don't think he should start, but I hope he plays well (or I don't, because I want Pardew out, haven't determined my supporting strategy yet). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thing is, he's not getting abuse because he's signed for us from Sunderland. If we had a player join us on a free from them, after turning down a few contract offers, who genuinely looked a decent player we'd all be pissing ourselves. The problem is he seems distinctly average, at best, acted a right cunt in multiple derbies and will no doubt be one of Pardew's 'lads'; starting week-in-week out at the expense of better players and as a replacement for a player who offered infinitely more than he ever will. Incredibly simplistic to say he gets stick just because he played for them. Except that fact does fuel a lot of the invective. Aye, Shay Given, Paul Bracewell and Barry Venison all used to get the same. Don't talk bollocks. Thanks for your valuable insight into our local rivalry. Opposition to him, from page 1 in this thread, has routinely been about him being a Mackem and his antics after scoring against us, as if what he did was some crime against humanity. You yourself have called him a "Geordie traitor" or something to that effect at least a couple times in this thread. It's small-time and petty. There wouldn't be nearly as much opposition to him as a Newcastle player had he not played for Sunderland. He'd just be a totally inoffensive, boring player we signed on a free. Eh? Of course the opposition is about what he did after scoring, and generally being a complete cunt to our supporters every time his new manager has let them walk all over us. That's very different to just playing for them. If you say so. I'm not at all convinced. And even if that is the case, it's still petty. Being petty over these rivalries is what being a football fan is all about, no matter who you support. Arsenal fans wouldn't dream of putting up with an Arsenal fan who had previously mocked them wearing a Spurs shirt. Bayern Munich fans campaigned fervently against Manuel Neuer's purchase because he had played for Schalke and mocked Oliver Kahn, and some still maintain that he is not allowed to approach a certain area of the ground as part of their demands for putting up with him. This is football in Europe and it's not changing any time soon. Fucking nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/MVZcLqK.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 As someone who actually thinks Colback is a good player, I just hope all this abuse isn't typical of the local support. I don't want him to be booed every time he makes a mistake, leading to him losing confidence, or getting fed up and leaving. I wish I could see what you constantly harp on about regarding Colback. To me, he looks absolutely bang average, 6/10, areet but nothing special at all. That's all well and good but when he's going to be keeping a terrific player like Anita on the bench because of our dinosaur manager, I fail to see your optimism regarding the deal. Well okay, I'll try and pinpoint the main issue, for me. For some time now, we have had a very dysfunctional midfield who struggle to create much on the deck. They have either lacked confidence or lacked ability in passing and receiving the ball. We often see passes designed to keep the ball rather than use it. It goes sideways or backwards, often behind the receiver because the passer isn't confident enough to play it into someone's stride. The result is that the opposition find it very easy to put pressure on us, the ball finds it way back to the keeper or the back four, who then have no choice but to hoof it long because the entire team is on the back foot, with no-one in space. What Colback does, better and more consistently than any of our other midfield players, is he's able to lift his head up, if necessary switch direction, and pass the ball forwards into the receiver's stride. Nothing spectacular or particularly eye-catching, but the momentum of the team is then forwards rather than backwards, mobile and not static. That is why Pardew is playing him, and Allardyce and Poyet wanted him. He's a decent tackler too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 So we had that problem with Cabaye but we are not with Colback? Give me a break. Those problems exist because of Pardew, no amount of new players will change it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 As someone who actually thinks Colback is a good player, I just hope all this abuse isn't typical of the local support. I don't want him to be booed every time he makes a mistake, leading to him losing confidence, or getting fed up and leaving. I wish I could see what you constantly harp on about regarding Colback. To me, he looks absolutely bang average, 6/10, areet but nothing special at all. That's all well and good but when he's going to be keeping a terrific player like Anita on the bench because of our dinosaur manager, I fail to see your optimism regarding the deal. Well okay, I'll try and pinpoint the main issue, for me. For some time now, we have had a very dysfunctional midfield who struggle to create much on the deck. They have either lacked confidence or lacked ability in passing and receiving the ball. We often see passes designed to keep the ball rather than use it. It goes sideways or backwards, often behind the receiver because the passer isn't confident enough to play it into someone's stride. The result is that the opposition find it very easy to put pressure on us, the ball finds it way back to the keeper or the back four, who then have no choice but to hoof it long because the entire team is on the back foot, with no-one in space. What Colback does, better and more consistently than any of our other midfield players, is he's able to lift his head up, if necessary switch direction, and pass the ball forwards into the receiver's stride. Nothing spectacular or particularly eye-catching, but the momentum of the team is then forwards rather than backwards, mobile and not static. That is why Pardew is playing him, and Allardyce and Poyet wanted him. He's a decent tackler too. The bit in bold perfectly describes what Colback does. Anita is probably the only player we have who is capable of doing what you say we need in central midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 As someone who actually thinks Colback is a good player, I just hope all this abuse isn't typical of the local support. I don't want him to be booed every time he makes a mistake, leading to him losing confidence, or getting fed up and leaving. I wish I could see what you constantly harp on about regarding Colback. To me, he looks absolutely bang average, 6/10, areet but nothing special at all. That's all well and good but when he's going to be keeping a terrific player like Anita on the bench because of our dinosaur manager, I fail to see your optimism regarding the deal. For some time now, we have had a very dysfunctional midfield who struggle to create much on the deck. They have either lacked confidence or lacked ability in passing and receiving the ball. We often see passes designed to keep the ball rather than use it. It goes sideways or backwards, often behind the receiver because the passer isn't confident enough to play it into someone's stride. The result is that the opposition find it very easy to put pressure on us, the ball finds it way back to the keeper or the back four, who then have no choice but to hoof it long because the entire team is on the back foot, with no-one in space. What Colback does, better and more consistently than any of our other midfield players, is he's able to lift his head up, if necessary switch direction, and pass the ball forwards into the receiver's stride. Nothing spectacular or particularly eye-catching, but the momentum of the team is then forwards rather than backwards, mobile and not static. That is why Pardew is playing him, and Allardyce and Poyet wanted him. He's a decent tackler too. That first paragraph is spot on. That second paragraph is shite. Colback is the exact type of player you're saying that we do not need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Imagine using Pardew playing him and Fat Sam wanting him in an argue for why he's a good player man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Imagine using Pardew playing him and Fat Sam wanting him in an argue for why he's a good player man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thread title is misleading. Rare to see him in the box... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thread title is misleading. Rare to see him in the box... Thread title has nowt to do with his playing style (or lack of) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 "Our team, Team X, have for too long relied on high balls into the box and set pieces, with very little pace and movement up front and we need to change. It is for this reason that I would sign Andy Carroll." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thread title is misleading. Rare to see him in the box... Thread title has nowt to do with his playing style (or lack of) I know... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thread title is misleading. Rare to see him in the box... Thread title has nowt to do with his playing style (or lack of) I know... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 He's a mackem, but give the lad a bit credit like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Thread title is misleading. Rare to see him in the box... for that joke n all (sorry been a long time ungiggsed) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Just read all this. Stifler is a f***ing flute. He's cack. He's ginger and he acted like a c*** taking the p*ss. He's burned his bridges on both sides as far as I'm concerned. Add to that he's clearly going to be a starter in Pardew's XI at every opportunity makes it even worse. He's an unambitious signing representative of this regime. He's a James Perch without any of the innocent charm. Hope the c*** gets a double fracture to the fibia and does his ACL in the process. Nee time for him whatsoever. The whole 'he only played for sunderland' argument can get to f*** anarl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Fuck it, I'm sticking it in me sig. Ian, you're off the hook for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 It won't happen but it'd be funny as owt against City... Welcome Number 10 Siem de Jong: Wheeeeeeey! Welcome Number 14 Jack Colback: *one bloke coughs in to a microphone* TBF to him it's a good job we don't have white kits otherwise you wouldn't be able to see him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 It won't happen but it'd be funny as owt against City... Welcome Number 10 Siem de Jong: Wheeeeeeey! Welcome Number 14 Jack Colback: *one bloke coughs in to a microphone* TBF to him it's a good job we don't have white kits otherwise you wouldn't be able to see him. Nar, man. It'd be mint if Rob the DJ adds lines like 'and club captain' or 'one and only' like he did for Shearer with 'number 14... he was proper canny at school... Jack Colback!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 It won't happen but it'd be funny as owt against City... Welcome Number 10 Siem de Jong: Wheeeeeeey! Welcome Number 14 Jack Colback: *one bloke coughs in to a microphone* TBF to him it's a good job we don't have white kits otherwise you wouldn't be able to see him. Nar, man. It'd be mint if Rob the DJ adds lines like 'and club captain' or 'one and only' like he did for Shearer with 'number 14... he was proper canny at school... Jack Colback!' And it's Jack Colback Jack Colback, Ginger He's got by far the best homework The class has ever seen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Jack Colback ginger and white army Jack Colback ginger and white army. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Who's that kid with all the answers Who's that kid with see through skin It's Jack Colback and his tits are fucking wank And he'll love the sunlun evermore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Don't sell Colback Jack Colback I just don't think you understand If you sell Colback Any more smack We'll have a dead mackem on wer hands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 OK. Too far. Sorry. Not deleting it, but sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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