Elliottman Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 There's people that defend Colback for working hard while doing absolutely nothing. In essence, we are paying the guy to do some exercise. In the meantime there are people that criticise Ben Arfa who despite not working hard enough, apparently, at least had the sense to be in positions to impact the game ten fold in our favour. This world man. This life. Didnt he get more goals and assists than Sissoko last year or have I just made that up? Anyway, I'm not defending him. He doesnt bother me as much as he does others but in an ideal World he isnt starting centre mid for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 That would say more about how poor Sissoko was in all honesty. A talented but incredibly frustrating player is Sissoko. Pretty much fed up of him tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 There's people that defend Colback for working hard while doing absolutely nothing. In essence, we are paying the guy to do some exercise. In the meantime there are people that criticise Ben Arfa who despite not working hard enough, apparently, at least had the sense to be in positions to impact the game ten fold in our favour. This world man. This life. Didnt he get more goals and assists than Sissoko last year or have I just made that up? Anyway, I'm not defending him. He doesnt bother me as much as he does others but in an ideal World he isnt starting centre mid for us. It's a bit like when Nolan was here. Always in the right place to get a goal from the set pieces, but pretty shit at bossing the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 There's people that defend Colback for working hard while doing absolutely nothing. In essence, we are paying the guy to do some exercise. In the meantime there are people that criticise Ben Arfa who despite not working hard enough, apparently, at least had the sense to be in positions to impact the game ten fold in our favour. This world man. This life. Didnt he get more goals and assists than Sissoko last year or have I just made that up? Anyway, I'm not defending him. He doesnt bother me as much as he does others but in an ideal World he isnt starting centre mid for us. Same amount of goals. Sissoko one more if taking cups into consideration. Colback with four more assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Imagine defending Colback, man. Someone's got to do it branks. We need balance. Gary Ballance. I've always favoured Steve Truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 That would say more about how poor Sissoko was in all honesty. A talented but incredibly frustrating player is Sissoko. Pretty much fed up of him tbh. My worry with Sissoko is that if McClaren is seeking to get us playing in the way that he did with Derby, with a quick passing game through the midfield, that might not suit Sissoko, who's not that technical. His main assets are his strong running and ability to take the ball past people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 How is Colback more hardworking than someone like Morgan Schneiderlin or Wayne Rooney? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Or even Janmaat for that matter. Or Perez. etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Impressive to be able to do all that running and still be totally off the pace and out of position so you have to get booked all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 How is Colback more hardworking than someone like Morgan Schneiderlin or Wayne Rooney? Did someone say he was? Shirley not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 That would say more about how poor Sissoko was in all honesty. A talented but incredibly frustrating player is Sissoko. Pretty much fed up of him tbh. My worry with Sissoko is that if McClaren is seeking to get us playing in the way that he did with Derby, with a quick passing game through the midfield, that might not suit Sissoko, who's not that technical. His main assets are his strong running and ability to take the ball past people. For someone who's not that technical, he can cross a pretty good ball. Sissoko's main problem is he tries to run past too many players, but since there's not usually any other option it's understandable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Sissoko is a very limited footballer i'd say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 How is Colback more hardworking than someone like Morgan Schneiderlin or Wayne Rooney? Did someone say he was? Shirley not. Ground covered is a meaningless stat tbh, Ozil regular covers over 10km per game and no one is going to tell me he's some sort of workhorse. If you are on the pitch for 90 mins you will cover ground by default. Not really. Matic, Boyd & Colback were 3 of the hardest working players in the league and the ground covered figures reflect this. I'm normally a hater of any stat-based patter but this one is certainly not 'meaningless'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 So aye, to answer you question Ian, no they didn't, I'm an idiot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Because while he isn't technically great at defending (or barely anything for that matter), he does put himself about the pitch, get in the face of the opposition and put his body in the line for the team. I can understand people on here really don't like him - which I find really odd with him being a local lad who tries hard - but to try and insinuate that he doesn't graft hard is a bit daft really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I watched the sacramento match last night and Colback was really off the pace when it comes to pressuring, interceptions, closing pass angles etc, he was laughable tbh. What he did do well was offer himslef for the pass when we were in possession and also simple passing to his team mates. He is decent at keeping the team ticking over when in possession but is absolute gash when we don't have the ball, all of this from his showing the other day... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Because while he isn't technically great at defending (or barely anything for that matter), he does put himself about the pitch, get in the face of the opposition and put his body in the line for the team. I can understand people on here really don't like him - which I find really odd with him being a local lad who tries hard - but to try and insinuate that he doesn't graft hard is a bit daft really. He's an alright player, nothing more, nothing less. It's typical of this forum to pick a player they like/don't like and massively exaggerate how good/bad he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I think he tries hard, it's just not to any great effect. His ability to influence midfield is average in the first half and almost zero when his legs go on about 60 minutes. I defended him when he signed TBF, I didn't care about the Sunderland link at all. But just watching him, he contributes so little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Because while he isn't technically great at defending (or barely anything for that matter), he does put himself about the pitch, get in the face of the opposition and put his body in the line for the team. I can understand people on here really don't like him - which I find really odd with him being a local lad who tries hard - but to try and insinuate that he doesn't graft hard is a bit daft really. He's an alright player, nothing more, nothing less. It's typical of this forum to pick a player they like/don't like and massively exaggerate how good/bad he is. It's typical of people who can't think to attribute one opinion to a group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 He's not shit, he's average. I wouldn't have him starting in a 4 man midfield, but he can be useful with if we play with 5 man midfield. People just go over the top on this board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Because while he isn't technically great at defending (or barely anything for that matter), he does put himself about the pitch, get in the face of the opposition and put his body in the line for the team. I can understand people on here really don't like him - which I find really odd with him being a local lad who tries hard - but to try and insinuate that he doesn't graft hard is a bit daft really. He's an alright player, nothing more, nothing less. It's typical of this forum to pick a player they like/don't like and massively exaggerate how good/bad he is. Most people are not claiming he's rubbish though. He's just bog average, has the charisma of a potato, previous in being a t*** for Sunderland, and is now somehow one of the first people on the team sheet + potential captain. Everything about it makes him annoying. Rinse and repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 For me it's more the fact that his hard work is used as a massive positive of his, when he does little with it. It's not like Rooney, or even 2012 Jonas where they can cover a lot of distance effectively. Jonas would lose the ball in the opponents final 3rd and was athletic enough to sprint the entire length of the pitch to win it back. Jack Colback bounces between the opposition as the play their passing game uninterrupted. Obviously slightly exaggerating but it often happens with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Sissoko is a very limited footballer i'd say. Fine athlete, poor technique. Constsnly tries to play the ball through his opponent which when it works, which is once in every thirty, looks like he knows what he is doing. He rarely does, he couldn't tame the ball with a chair and a whip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I think Colback is a decent player but he shouldn't be captain because he shouldn't start. We will see loads of Colback this season, so we better get used to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 He's not s***, he's average. I wouldn't have him starting in a 4 man midfield, but he can be useful with if we play with 5 man midfield. People just go over the top on this board. Nah he shouldn't, he's just not good enough to start at CM when Wijnaldum and Sissoko are better. He's not utterly shite just like Perch and Guthrie were not but he shouldn't start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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