Yorkie Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Villa's half was frequently very sparse and there was often a huge gap between our midfield and strikeforce. That being said, I like to see my strikers trap a football now and again. Difficult to make a judgement when your manager is doing absolutely fuck all to help you, but he didn't look particularly special today. Totally snatched at that chance when Cabella slipped him in; Senderos was practically begging him to take a touch before he shot. Aesthetically looks the part, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Be surprised if he amounts to much personally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I may be overreacting but he looks pretty shite so far. Could say he looks every inch the 6 million pound striker in a world where Shane Long costs 12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Doesn't look like he has any strengths, probably needs a partner but why buy him to play him alone upfront? Clearly not his game. Might work better where goof has been playing, goof would probably play better upfront as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The only thing that has saved Pardew's bacon for a long time now is having a really good striker on a hot streak, I can't see anyone in the team doing a Ba or a first 15 games Cisse or a Remy. Without that kind of player up front this season it should highlight Pardews flaws even more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Ameobi with the speed and brain of Saylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Someone like Long is suited to our style, despite what Joffrey reckons. May as well sign Welbeck tbh because at least with his pace and ability to half run with the ball we would stand a chance. Really are a team that needs a Remy or Ba a striker that can play / has pace / unpredictable. Riviere seems severely lacking in technical ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Don't think he is as bad as some are saying, he has some decent hold up play, looks fairly quick and strong BUT he has been massively isolated, he is not the kind of player that can create things out of nothing, he needs others around him rather than the vast spaces we currently have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 We have the same conversations every season no matter what players we have. Strikers are isolated, Cabella has no movement around him off the ball, it's the same thing over and over and that tells me it's not the players that are to blame. Riviere may or may not be a good striker but I very much doubt we'll get a realistic look at him until we our coaching and tactics change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 All the reports seemed to suggest he struggled massively for Monaco without Falcao playing, and that's in the French league with James Rodriguez and Moutinho in midfield behind him. Willing to give him a chance but there's very little to suggest he's PL quality so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He is never going to score 20 goals in a season, with the right tactics I could see him get 10-12 a season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Not impressed with him thus far, even when factoring in Pardew's abysmal tactics. Will be surprised if he gets to double figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 We could have Shearer in his prime and not score in a month with these tactics. Pardews team talk is "careful" forward play is too dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Problem is the lad might have something but immediately it's all down to him, loads of pressure and he's extremely isolated up front. We don't have any other options so the lad is really going to start feeling it soon, a ridiculous scenario as per usual at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I mean, we've been through the "don't write them off early" thing so many times now that it's silly that it even needs to be mentioned. The kid has tools and is still adapting to the league. Let's give him more than two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Thought he did alright, just no support, services or chances. He will be sick of playing for is in a couple of weeks. He looked sick after about 15 mins today. Still, at least those who are always moaning about Cisse might realise playing as an isolated striker with no service is a pretty thankless task with this tosser as a manager. Bang on, sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He is an average player (which is what he always has been) had a below average today. I believe he will score a decent amount because he is an acceptable finisher, but is not the type that just carries a side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It's not unknown for a new player to the EPL to take a whole season to adjust, a canny manager that knows a player has something about him persists and gives him that chance. After two games I can't say whether this lad has anything about him or not, there could be a number of factors affecting him. What I am fairly sure of is he will never show his true potential in a Pardew team, neither will Peroze or indeed half the players we buy. Those that have shown their true potential on many occassions are the ones that Pardew persists with, the Williamsons, Dummets and Gouffrans. Isolating a player for criticism in suxh circumstances and after just two games seems a bit short-sighted to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I mean, we've been through the "don't write them off early" thing so many times now that it's silly that it even needs to be mentioned. The kid has tools and is still adapting to the league. Let's give him more than two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He is an average player (which is what he always has been) had a below average today. I believe he will score a decent amount because he is an acceptable finisher, but is not the type that just carries a side. Almost a fair assessment, but he's not being given a fair chance on the pitch with how we setup. If he had three clear chances setup for him and he fluffed them all I'd agree out right. Instead he was given fuck all to work with and looked even worse for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Suffering from Cissé disease atm. Also know as the lack of ability to pull goals out of your arse and actually needing the other 10 players on the pitch. Pardew's fucked if he's relying on this kid to be Demba Ba/Loic Remy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Suffering from Cissé disease atm. Also know as the lack of ability to pull goals out of your arse and actually needing the other 10 players on the pitch. Pardew's f***ed if he's relying on this kid to be Demba Ba/Loic Remy We can but dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 We cant really work out if he is decent or not due to Pards. We create bugger all so if we want a striker to score a significant amount he has to do alot himself. I like the look of aspects of his game and he'd be an asset to most mid level PL clubs. Hell play probably the next few games then be dropped by pards and replaced with Chucky or ayoze who will probably get 5 games then be dropped if he hasn't scored a few Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Will be shocked if this guy gets 10 goals this season. Infact Ronaldo's prediction of our entire strikeforce getting less than 30 is looking pretty accurate. Not exactly a difficult prediction to make. What I actually said was none would get double figures. And the entire team would struggle to hit 30. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The bloke's on a hiding to nothing. Feel quite sorry for him tbh, absolute thankless task to lead this 'line'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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