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I'm finding it very hard to tell people how shit Pardew is. All I hear is "well, he gets results... just look at Palace... and you're lot is now worse off without him. He got you 5th!". I then point to how bad we were, and the standard response is "well, your owner did sell his best players and never backed him".

 

Problem is until he implodes at Palace he will be seen as the second coming of Jesus for some reason. Even Big Sam eventually was labelled as a lower Premier League manager at best, but with Pardew people get carried away thinking he could be a top 6 team manager. I then try to say "well, you're a Liverpool/Spurs/Man Utd/Arsenal fan, would you take him at your club?" - funnily they go quiet then.

 

I just wish this thread could be locked until he's imploded and anything to do with him could some how be deleted from my senses too until that point. The more Palace do well and we do shit, the more it looks to the neutrals that it was all down to him.

 

He's pretty smooth in front of the camera. He doesn't sweat and fling his jowels all over the interviewer like Big Sam. This definitely has something to do with it.

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I'm finding it very hard to tell people how shit Pardew is. All I hear is "well, he gets results... just look at Palace... and you're lot is now worse off without him. He got you 5th!". I then point to how bad we were, and the standard response is "well, your owner did sell his best players and never backed him".

 

Problem is until he implodes at Palace he will be seen as the second coming of Jesus for some reason. Even Big Sam eventually was labelled as a lower Premier League manager at best, but with Pardew people get carried away thinking he could be a top 6 team manager. I then try to say "well, you're a Liverpool/Spurs/Man Utd/Arsenal fan, would you take him at your club?" - funnily they go quiet then.

 

I just wish this thread could be locked until he's imploded and anything to do with him could some how be deleted from my senses too until that point. The more Palace do well and we do shit, the more it looks to the neutrals that it was all down to him.

Doubting more and more that this will even happen

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I'm finding it very hard to tell people how shit Pardew is. All I hear is "well, he gets results... just look at Palace... and you're lot is now worse off without him. He got you 5th!". I then point to how bad we were, and the standard response is "well, your owner did sell his best players and never backed him".

 

Problem is until he implodes at Palace he will be seen as the second coming of Jesus for some reason. Even Big Sam eventually was labelled as a lower Premier League manager at best, but with Pardew people get carried away thinking he could be a top 6 team manager. I then try to say "well, you're a Liverpool/Spurs/Man Utd/Arsenal fan, would you take him at your club?" - funnily they go quiet then.

 

I just wish this thread could be locked until he's imploded and anything to do with him could some how be deleted from my senses too until that point. The more Palace do well and we do shit, the more it looks to the neutrals that it was all down to him.

Doubting more and more that this will even happen

Happened after a year and a half here, don't worry the Pards boom bust cycle will continue.

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Thought I'd share this gem of a post from another forum:

 

What do you consider moderate success, afaik he had more away wins in 2015 than any other team in the league, can you describe that as moderate success?

 

As for 12 months, 99% of Newcastle fans are insanely biased but break down year by year. First year he did well, improved the team but nothing phenomenal. Second year was absolutely fantastic, that was a squad that should average mid table and he got them to 5th. Third year they had almost the entire first team squad out injured for on average 2-3 months, some longer, some less long, many repeat injuries and they had 40% extra games during the worst injury period from start of season to x-mas. There are few teams who would do well in such circumstances.

 

4th year and they were back to brilliant. Newcastle fans ignore it, so do most others but that year they had 33 points, were 6th and 6 points off the top which was 3 more points at the same stage they finished 5th. They were doing better than the season everyone said they were amazing..... then with half a season to go the owners sold Cabaye, their best player. Should they have lost as much motivation as they did, nope but can you understand it, yup. Without Cabaye and no replacement they lost any hope of european finish, certainly no chance of Champs league and no real chance of relegation, they also never dropped below 10th place in the second half of the season.

 

They improved significantly in the first half of last season after a while finding their motivation again and bringing new players in. So the only two periods they had bad form there was a monumental injury crisis the likes of which no team wouldn't drop massively or the club sold the season out from under the players and gave them absolutely no reason to play at all. Had they not won a single point in the second half of the season they wouldn't have gone down due to how good the first half was, as it was they finished 10th and never dropped into the bottom half of the table.

 

He's been doing a great job since he came back to the premiership. 4.5 seasons there only 1.5 seasons were bad, 2 were excellent, 0.5 was decent enough(last half season in charge).

 

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Thought I'd share this gem of a post from another forum:

 

What do you consider moderate success, afaik he had more away wins in 2015 than any other team in the league, can you describe that as moderate success?

 

As for 12 months, 99% of Newcastle fans are insanely biased but break down year by year. First year he did well, improved the team but nothing phenomenal. Second year was absolutely fantastic, that was a squad that should average mid table and he got them to 5th. Third year they had almost the entire first team squad out injured for on average 2-3 months, some longer, some less long, many repeat injuries and they had 40% extra games during the worst injury period from start of season to x-mas. There are few teams who would do well in such circumstances.

 

4th year and they were back to brilliant. Newcastle fans ignore it, so do most others but that year they had 33 points, were 6th and 6 points off the top which was 3 more points at the same stage they finished 5th. They were doing better than the season everyone said they were amazing..... then with half a season to go the owners sold Cabaye, their best player. Should they have lost as much motivation as they did, nope but can you understand it, yup. Without Cabaye and no replacement they lost any hope of european finish, certainly no chance of Champs league and no real chance of relegation, they also never dropped below 10th place in the second half of the season.

 

They improved significantly in the first half of last season after a while finding their motivation again and bringing new players in. So the only two periods they had bad form there was a monumental injury crisis the likes of which no team wouldn't drop massively or the club sold the season out from under the players and gave them absolutely no reason to play at all. Had they not won a single point in the second half of the season they wouldn't have gone down due to how good the first half was, as it was they finished 10th and never dropped into the bottom half of the table.

 

He's been doing a great job since he came back to the premiership. 4.5 seasons there only 1.5 seasons were bad, 2 were excellent, 0.5 was decent enough(last half season in charge).

Reads exactly like a TCD post

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It's not particularly surprising that a team like Palace are going to miss Cabaye & Bolasie against Chelsea.

Yawn. Lose two players, game finished before it starts. Classic AP.

 

Are you ever going to take off your Alan Pardew goggles of hysteria and look at things objectively?

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It's not particularly surprising that a team like Palace are going to miss Cabaye & Bolasie against Chelsea.

Yawn. Lose two players, game finished before it starts. Classic AP.

 

Are you ever going to take off your Alan Pardew goggles of hysteria and look at things objectively?

Not where Alan Pardew is concerned no.

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