mrmojorisin75 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Credit where it's due i guess people have got to stop saying this, he's done nothing more than his job in the last few weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 As cream always rises to the top, so dross always finds its own level even if it is suspended at a higher strata for a while. Pardew will inevitably be the centre of controversy and questions about his suitability as a PL manager once things start going wrong again - as they will. His record at other clubs is all you need to look at to know that and he has had a temporary stay of execution because he was obliged to pick several young players either by injury or for the League Cup game - it worked out better than he expected so he lives to fight another few months. Abeid was probably NUFC's best player yesterday - why hasn't he been in the first team before now ? That tells you all you need to know about Pardew's judgment of a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Got to give credit when it's due, but not allowed to give criticism when it's due. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Classic - we have a bad run and everyone wants his head, we have a good run and we all love him Looking at it team by team we've played we are now in EXACTLY the same place as last season - we're not that bad a side but we're also not outstanding What is interests me is taht I can't believe that W Ham & Saints can continue their runs either - it could be very crowded at the top around New Year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 This t*** has the run of several decent matches based on the fact this squad is pretty strong. Thing is though we should be top six easy with the players we have... Pardew does not have a relegation squad, he has a Europa League squad so what he's doing isn't great at all. Still an absolute p*ss manager who we'll never get rid off. I don't even bother watching the matches now because of the supporters who helped ruin this club annoying the f*** out of me. 11th to 14th with occasional victory over Man City and the like is what fans are happy with and is what Pardew can provide at his best... Little point in football for me anymore until he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Classic - we have a bad run and everyone wants his head, we have a good run and we all love him Dunno if we all love him, but in general I'm sure our support are viewing him more positively than four games ago. But people say this like it's a character flaw. "You stupid Geordies, managers do badly and you criticize them, they do well and you give them credit for it! If Padrew won the treble would you still want him out?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Credit where it's due i guess people have got to stop saying this, he's done nothing more than his job in the last few weeks We,ve beaten Man City, Spurs (away) and Liverpool in the last 3 games. Regardless of how shit they all played we still had to beat them. Yes, he's just doing his job but given how shit he is at it, you should give him credit where it's due and it is due when you beat 3 teams of that quality in a row. Doesn't mean you have to change your overall view of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Credit where it's due i guess people have got to stop saying this, he's done nothing more than his job in the last few weeks We,ve beaten Man City, Spurs (away) and Liverpool in the last 3 games. Regardless of how s*** they all played we still had to beat them. Yes, he's just doing his job but given how s*** he is at it, you should give him credit where it's due and it is due when you beat 3 teams of that quality in a row. Doesn't mean you have to change your overall view of him. Man City lost to West Ham.... Spurs are currently sitting in 14th and Liverpool have been piss since Suarez has gone... Compare to when we played Southampton and Chelsea the two teams actually living up to their potential and you see the credit comes from teams having bad form not Pardew. As usual luck is on his side... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Cunt doing the walk of shame over the Millennium Bridge half an hour ago. More black/leather than the Undertaker. Arsehole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 We've seen it before. He stumbles his way onto a new formation or a starting lineup which seems to actually work and we go on a decent run. As soon as we have a defeat or two he'll revert back to playing Gouffran every game and our best players out of position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 This t*** has the run of several decent matches based on the fact this squad is pretty strong. Thing is though we should be top six easy with the players we have... Pardew does not have a relegation squad, he has a Europa League squad so what he's doing isn't great at all. Still an absolute p*ss manager who we'll never get rid off. I don't even bother watching the matches now because of the supporters who helped ruin this club annoying the f*** out of me. 11th to 14th with occasional victory over Man City and the like is what fans are happy with and is what Pardew can provide at his best... Little point in football for me anymore until he leaves. Top 6 easy? You are fucking mental lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The world is slowly going mad: Leicester at home - we were rubbish and it was an awful, awful game. They just happened to be worse Spurs away - one of the worst first halves by NUFC I've ever seen, ever, ever, ever, ever. Spurs decided to stop at half-time Man City away - played alright Liverpool at home - an awful game of football that neither side deserved to win, and we score due to a defensive mistake So, in summary we're still rubbish, we've just been lucky. Reminds me of the season we finished 5th - play crap, get lucky. The problem is, as long as we win our fans completely forget about the preceding 90 minutes. Mental. Look at the Rangers fans, they're already going militant against Ashley and have done more in a month than our fanbase have in the 5 years he's been in charge. Fan rant over. If I was in charge I'd still sack Pardew in a heartbeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Howay man, we played better than 'alright' against City Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'd still sack him if we finish in europe. Amazing how many pundits forget this is the man who headbutted a player and embarrassed himself insulting a respected manager. Pardew can get the team playing well but he is pretty much guaranteed to go on at least one extended run of awful results every season as he doesn't know how to turn things around without flukes. He will also sap creativity out the side. When playing well we can be ok to watch but never better. I want a manager to produce better football and want to bring in players with flair. Pardew will never be that and we're always one step away from disaster. This is not to say I don't give him any credit, he's got us looking much better defensively these last few games and has started playing people more on merit. He's still not the man I want representing our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Howay man, we played better than 'alright' against City We did but it was a classic underdog performance. We've been very similar in the last week to the fixtures that kept the mackems up at the end of last season, wins at Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford, and they should have won at the Etihad too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 City couldn't have cared less, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok, maybe that wording was overly negative re: the City game. The basic point remains valid, though. We've won 4 on the bounce whilst still playing horrid football, and we could quite conceivably have lost 3 out of those four. The press say we've turned a corner, but I totally disagree. We're still playing with the same method that failed terribly in the second half of last season - try not to concede and hope we get lucky via some individual brilliance of mistakes from the opposition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok, maybe that wording was overly negative re: the City game. The basic point remains valid, though. We've won 4 on the bounce whilst still playing horrid football, and we could quite conceivably have lost 3 out of those four. The press say we've turned a corner, but I totally disagree. We're still playing with the same method that failed terribly in the second half of last season - try not to concede and hope we get lucky via some individual brilliance of mistakes from the opposition We're still deeply average, but we are a bit better. Mainly down to confidence I would say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I think there has been a pretty marked change in the football we've been playing - we've been commiting more players forward and playing fewer long balls (probably due to the absence of Williamson more than anything else). You only have to look at the positions that Dummett and Janmaat found themselves in to see that the shackles had been released a bit. Doesn't make Pardew a tactical genius by any stretch - he's done what he should have done a year ago. It's taken the worst run in nufc history for him to make the obvious change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Cunt doing the walk of shame over the Millennium Bridge half an hour ago. More black/leather than the Undertaker. Arsehole. I think what we're all wondering is, why didn't you deck him? Or even just roll your shirt up to mid-bicep? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I think there has been a pretty marked change in the football we've been playing - we've been commiting more players forward and playing fewer long balls (probably due to the absence of Williamson more than anything else). You only have to look at the positions that Dummett and Janmaat found themselves in to see that the shackles had been released a bit. Doesn't make Pardew a tactical genius by any stretch - he's done what he should have done a year ago. It's taken the worst run in nufc history for him to make the obvious change. At a quick glance, that's not backed up at all statistically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I think there has been a pretty marked change in the football we've been playing - we've been commiting more players forward and playing fewer long balls (probably due to the absence of Williamson more than anything else). You only have to look at the positions that Dummett and Janmaat found themselves in to see that the shackles had been released a bit. Doesn't make Pardew a tactical genius by any stretch - he's done what he should have done a year ago. It's taken the worst run in nufc history for him to make the obvious change. Janmaat's natural game is to bomb forward, I don't think Pardew could stop him if he tried. As for committing more players forward, I'm not seeing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 We don't get many forward, too often under Pardew someone breaks forward and finds no support, or almost always our striker is incredibly isolated. He's reliant on the few players actually in the attack to do 'a bit of magic' and not having enough people there that scoring is actually easier than missing. It means that when in form and our forwards are clinical we can do well and defend in numbers, but when low on confidence our forward line is always completely anemic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I think we're just playing younger, pacier players with a point to prove tbh. Can't see much of a change in style at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I think we're just playing younger, pacier players with a point to prove tbh. Can't see much of a change in style at all. Suits us to have played 3 teams who've looked fairly disinterested whilst our kids are still racing round brimming with enthusiasm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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