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So just to get this straight,  60% predicting top half/saying that the squad should be capable of top half is 'the commonly thought' view of the forum. Based on 60% of people's guesses. And the example you've cited it Stifler. Okay then.

 

 

Well, yes :lol:

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FFS man.  Somebody find Wullie's post about how teams have fared worse in the league when in the Europa League but not by TWELVE FUCKING PLACES.

 

Not that it will mean anything to this utter bellend who has tediously fucked up every single football thread.

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7th during the 12/13 season is harsh IMO. We had the extra Europa League games and had only added Anita.

 

Who cares what position we finished in? fact is the football was s**** and he stunted the growth of various different players. Not sure why this is being brought up anyway, everyone knows how it happened and it's been repeated constantly after the fact.

 

All boring as f*** imo.

 

We finished 16th that season. That's not even going into the fact that Ohh hey, look Europa was tough on our small squad (which we signed a boat load in January) and we didn't improve 5th but finished 6-10th. No we finished 16th and were SAVED by an own goal. FFS that's turbo s***.

 

Everton didn't get as far as us in the Europa League - signed more players in August - and finished in the bottom half of the table. Pardew of course under performed but there's other circumstances. Including losing Ba. January isn't the time to sign 4 first team players from France and expect them to excel straight away. Especially coming into a poorly performing team.

 

Nobody thought everything was Pardew's fault :lol:

 

He had a strong squad here and it wasn't until we sold Cabaye that that really changed.

 

 

When we sold Cabaye, we where 6th in the league.

Aye, we were so good under him post Cabaye that protests were carried out to the point where he actually cried on live TV.

 

The form from January - May was absolutely awful aye. No question and we should've done better. Cabaye left and it was massive, we've not looked a decent side for  any kind of period of time since. I think the likes of Remy and Debuchy had their heads turned and were looking at their next moves. The rest of that side is what we have left and after every game it's becoming increasingly obvious that they aren't very good at all.

 

Except they mostly did excel straight away, until they got Pardew's philosophy pummeled into them and became complete gash. Once we lost Ba, Pardew was found out and he never recovered from it.

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PL form 'amongst' the Europa League fixtures: W6 -- D1 -- L7 -- 42% win rate

 

PL form when no Europa League fixtures: W5 -- D7 -- L12 -- 20% win rate

 

 

The Europa League thing was always utter, utter fucking bullshit and it's one of the main things I deeply hated him for.

 

Cunt. :thup:

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Rather that than this, people. I've seen nothing from Steve McClaren that fills me with optimism.

 

But you saw something in Pardew that filled you with optimism?  Fuck off man, he filled everyone here with nowt but a feeling of hopelessness so acute that many would've gladly seen the club implode just so it'd all be over with.  Our current manager might be shit, but at least I can watch a game and not completely despise him and want us to lose just so he'll fuck off.  Its far from enjoyable but its better than seeing that smarmy piece of shit Pardew in the dugout overseeing the most mind numbing soul destroying attempt at Football I've ever witnessed.

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All that sounds amazing now. 5th, followed by a Europa League QF. First half of 13-14 wasn't bad, either.

 

I used to think Pardew was a clown and didn't know what he was doing but that all changed when Cabaye went back to him.

 

Compare that with McClaren who has been a disappointment in every way. With this current version of Newcastle, I'd rather have Pardew. The guy took a shit load of heat and fair play to him has bounced back.

 

A a fickle outlook. He needs next season before he convinces me he's bucked his trend.

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