KaKa Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 too long ; didn't read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I dunno, I think in Sackpardew.com are getting this a little wrong, doesn't really matter that the stuff was confiscated, the reaction was exactly the same with our without the banners and cards. It was pathetic, the vast majority of the crowd didn't protest and showed zero sign that they support this movement, even at 0-2 there was no mass anger. Call out these supporters, ask them if they are happy with the football played, the results since the 5th place finish, the position at the bottom of the league, ask them what there solution is, if they reply "well it's all Ashley's fault we have to get rid of him" ask them how they go about achieving that when it's not something they can even hope to influence. I understand the need to keep people onside, but the lack of response to this at the match needs to be addressed. How have those from the group and indeed us on this forum got so far detached from public opinion ? Call them out challenge them to show us how wrong we are. Must admit I would have given up, if I were them after Hull, and said f*** this these fans deserve this charlatan, much respect to them for sticking with it and trying to stay positive about the campaign. That was pretty much my feeling after the match on Saturday- these people are fast getting the football club they truly deserve. Now I've come round to thinking it'll just take a little longer. International break or not I'm sure the 2 upcoming defeats will persuade more to get involved when they see 3 points from 7 games and a gap opening up. As for the extra/over-zealous stewarding, Imo Ashley was rattled by the images from the Cardiff game- fans openly revolting next to his precious advertising, taking the piss out of security throwing banners between them while hapless stewards ran up and down stairwells as the piggies in the middle. The Thatcherite in him would have been appalled and not prepared to tolerate a repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I'm curious to know if the club were even legally allowed to confiscate what was in effect private property. Banners reputedly had safety (fire) certificates and the club had written a letter saying they were permitted. In any event Ashley IS clearly rattled, the over zealous stewarding and the PR guru in tow, the ex-players popping out of the woodowrk making spurious claims about Pardew. My biggest concern now is just how stubborn Ashley will be over this, relegation is a real threat and he might not act in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 It really should be far far too late for any PR campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 emphasis should be on the word should. Sadly, we don't live in a reality where logic holds much sway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 If Didi Hamann and Olivier Bernard spouting bullshit about a tosspot manager they never played for is enough to convince some of our fans, they deserve everything they get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Doesn't change a thing - anyone who says so is blind. Took us to extra minutes to beat a shit Palace side. Oh, and before anyone goes into saying Liverpool went to 4,000 penalties to beat Boro - Liverpool would play us in the PL and murder us 5-0 at SJP and 5-0 at Anfield. If Hull weren't so negative and had HBA playing or hell, Gaston, they'd have beaten us too. I don't see a single win in the PL in sight. Stoke will out muscle us all over, and Swansea will have Bony and Gomis shit on us. Canny that right, the guys we don't want to pay for in the summer hopefully put a knife into Pardew. Fuck him, the arrogant fucking prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 If Didi Hamann and Olivier Bernard spouting bullshit about a tosspot manager they never played for is enough to convince some of our fans, they deserve everything they get. I now wish Didi was punched by Joseph Barton and Olivier Bernard should be ashamed, this is the fucking guy who played for SBR and has lived in this town since his career ended. Ungrateful stupid fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'm curious to know if the club were even legally allowed to confiscate what was in effect private property . Banners reputedly had safety (fire) certificates and the club had written a letter saying they were permitted. In any event Ashley IS clearly rattled, the over zealous stewarding and the PR guru in tow, the ex-players popping out of the woodowrk making spurious claims about Pardew. My biggest concern now is just how stubborn Ashley will be over this, relegation is a real threat and he might not act in time. This is exactly what I said to a steward, and he didn't try to argue with me. Can imagine most of our fans dutifully doing as they're told in single file, dropping their posters into the bin bags having their rights infringed upon without the gumption to question it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 too long ; didn't read Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 too long ; didn't read Thanks. tl;dr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I dunno, I think in Sackpardew.com are getting this a little wrong, doesn't really matter that the stuff was confiscated, the reaction was exactly the same with our without the banners and cards. It was pathetic, the vast majority of the crowd didn't protest and showed zero sign that they support this movement, even at 0-2 there was no mass anger. Call out these supporters, ask them if they are happy with the football played, the results since the 5th place finish, the position at the bottom of the league, ask them what there solution is, if they reply "well it's all Ashley's fault we have to get rid of him" ask them how they go about achieving that when it's not something they can even hope to influence. I understand the need to keep people onside, but the lack of response to this at the match needs to be addressed. How have those from the group and indeed us on this forum got so far detached from public opinion ? Call them out challenge them to show us how wrong we are. Must admit I would have given up, if I were them after Hull, and said f*** this these fans deserve this charlatan, much respect to them for sticking with it and trying to stay positive about the campaign. 40% of those going to the match took a. leaflet, not everbody got the chance to take one and nobody was forced to take one. I hardly saw any, literally 1 or 2 on the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Aye, I walked to SJP a couple of minutes late (missed the 5 min protest!) and when I was walking up to the stadium I only saw 2 SP cards across the whole of town. Was wondering what happened to the protest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 "Anyone who has seen us play this year will know the top of the pitch has been an issue for us. We've just not had that cutting edge." Pretty sure its defense and midfield also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Forget the Southampton game, i'm still having nightmares about Palace looking likely to score at SJP everytime they ventured forward with some intent. To think we nearly came out of that match with 3 points is incredible really. Villa is the best we've played this season imo and even that was hardly anything to write home about. We are miles behind the standard of performances we should be at. Far from just the killer instinct in attack being the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Fucking mad that people don't just look at Southampton and model that. Or hell, all the other losses we've had FFS, there's been a million of them. - Attack wings with pace - Attack CBs with pace - We suck ass in the air - Pressure our midfield and they will lose the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Amazing how he comes out with those quotes after starting the season saying we're in a stronger position offensively than last, after letting HBA go. How the media don't hold him to these quotes is amazing. I guess Siem was our hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 He wonders why we're weak at the top of the pitch with Carver coaching the attack just one day a week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Amazing how he comes out with those quotes after starting the season saying we're in a stronger position offensively than last, after letting HBA go. How the media don't hold him to these quotes is amazing. I guess Siem was our hope. That's the excuse: "injuries". Well, yeah, if you put all your hope in one man and he goes down then you're fucked, but who was the fool who put all his hope in one man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hopefully theyll be our in force tonight for the Sky cameras. The tunnel is nicely placed for our fans as well isnt it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hopefully theyll be our in force tonight for the Sky cameras. The tunnel is nicely placed for our fans as well isnt it ? Yep. Pardew will have to walk right passed our lot tonight. Be a shame if something caught him in the face, like a can of coke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hopefully theyll be our in force tonight for the Sky cameras. The tunnel is nicely placed for our fans as well isnt it ? Yep. Pardew will have to walk right passed our lot tonight. Be a shame if something caught him in the face, like a can of coke. Would prefer a javelin, if anyone could smuggle in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 :lol: the mental image that conjures of the steward: 'what's that in your pocket son?' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 :lol: the mental image that conjures of the steward: 'what's that in your pocket son?' Just very pleased to see you m'lud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hopefully theyll be our in force tonight for the Sky cameras. The tunnel is nicely placed for our fans as well isnt it ? Yep. Pardew will have to walk right passed our lot tonight. Be a shame if something caught him in the face, like a can of coke. Would prefer a javelin, if anyone could smuggle in that. It would just glance off him, nothing sticks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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