Guest firetotheworks Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The fact that Henderson was somehow rated highly enough to be chosen as England captain sums up just how far England have fallen. He's complete and utter garbage. Does it sum up how far Liverpool has fallen as well? Just that they seem to be doing awfully well with him as their captain and starting every game. If you think Jordan Henderson is the reason Liverpool are doing well then you need medical help. That's not what he said Well if you're asking me if Gerrard to Henderson is a downgrade then I don't think its a question even worthy of a answer. Just because Liverpool are doing well with him as Captain, that doesn't mean he's the automatic choice to replace Rooney does it? I think you need to look at Klopp, Mane, Coutinho etc as to why Liverpool are doing well. Even Milner is far superior. He shouldn't even be in the starting 11, never mind captain and his performance tonight proved it. Ah okay, so you agree that it sums up exactly nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Can we just lock this thread until November. Club football returns this weekend. Pipe down, Wyclef. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Henderson's Ronaldinho pass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy2Sheds Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Can we just lock this thread until November. Club football returns this weekend. Pipe down, Wyclef. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Some other shit result tonight? Class. Had an epiphany, next English manager has to be Simeone, no one else. Ticks so many boxes. Preferably he'd have Beckham as kitman but that's probably asking too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I'm sure TRon hears voices, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Stick with Southgate until the summer and see if we can get Wenger then. If that's not possible, just give it to Pardew and let the journos have a field day with digging in his past and have him being a t*** in front of the whole nation. Southgate hasn't even managed at club level never mind international. Leaving him at the helm too long is the equivalent of putting Giggs in charge of Man U. The FA are basically just winging it at the moment, and Allardyce was part of that as well. wut I forgot, he managed boro wasn't it? Might as well have been Peterborough for all the difference it makes. He hasn't shown anything at club level, that's the point for the less pedantic. Less pedantic :lol: You were wrong, that's what it was. No pedanticism about it And he managed 3 seasons in the Premier League so it's nothing like managing Peterborough. Alright so I was wrong, congratulations, now let's hear your views as to why his club record qualifies him as England material. Or even why his club experience is irrelevant, maybe he has some international insight that the less informed like me are unaware of. Let's hear it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The fact that Henderson was somehow rated highly enough to be chosen as England captain sums up just how far England have fallen. He's complete and utter garbage. Does it sum up how far Liverpool has fallen as well? Just that they seem to be doing awfully well with him as their captain and starting every game. If you think Jordan Henderson is the reason Liverpool are doing well then you need medical help. That's not what he said Well if you're asking me if Gerrard to Henderson is a downgrade then I don't think its a question even worthy of a answer. Just because Liverpool are doing well with him as Captain, that doesn't mean he's the automatic choice to replace Rooney does it? I think you need to look at Klopp, Mane, Coutinho etc as to why Liverpool are doing well. Even Milner is far superior. He shouldn't even be in the starting 11, never mind captain and his performance tonight proved it. Ah okay, so you agree that it sums up exactly nothing. You may wish to consider who you're arguing with, and Henderson's previous employers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Can we just lock this thread until November. Club football returns this weekend. There's another one of these in November? Christ give me strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Southgate probably isn't good enough but i don't think any manager can get much from this group, there's some talented forward players but most of the defenders are utter s**** and the CM options are utterly depressing. Jordan Henderson, Eric Dier, Fabian Delph, Danny Drinkwater, Jonjo Shelvey, Jack Cork, James Ward-Prowse, Jack Wilshere, Ryan Mason, Tom Carroll, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Liam Baker, Nathaniel Chalobah. Don't think i'm missing anyone there, but none of them are any good. If the midfield is utterly s**** which it quite painfully is, then it's hard for any manager to get anything from the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Southgate probably isn't good enough but i don't think any manager can get much from this group, there's some talented forward players but most of the defenders are utter s**** and the CM options are utterly depressing. Jordan Henderson, Eric Dier, Fabian Delph, Danny Drinkwater, Jonjo Shelvey, Jack Cork, James Ward-Prowse, Jack Wilshere, Ryan Mason, Tom Carroll, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Liam Baker, Nathaniel Chalobah. Don't think i'm missing anyone there, but none of them are any good. If the midfield is utterly s**** which it quite painfully is, then it's hard for any manager to get anything from the team. Barkley is the obvious miss. Needs to fulfil some potential though. He's clearly got some ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Time to give Will Hughes a go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 What on earth has Vardy done wrong? Rooney is still going to be a big problem because he'll be first sub introduced 9 times out of 10! That is now five utter shite England matches in a row! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Southgate probably isn't good enough but i don't think any manager can get much from this group, there's some talented forward players but most of the defenders are utter s**** and the CM options are utterly depressing. Jordan Henderson, Eric Dier, Fabian Delph, Danny Drinkwater, Jonjo Shelvey, Jack Cork, James Ward-Prowse, Jack Wilshere, Ryan Mason, Tom Carroll, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Liam Baker, Nathaniel Chalobah. Don't think i'm missing anyone there, but none of them are any good. If the midfield is utterly s**** which it quite painfully is, then it's hard for any manager to get anything from the team. Barkley is the obvious miss. Needs to fulfil some potential though. He's clearly got some ability. Yeah. In general, we do have some talented players who, for one reason or another, weren't out there last night - Barkley, Wilshere, Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Welbeck - players who can make things happen. A fit and in-form Wilshere would have made a big difference, but I fear the worst for his career, with so many injuries early on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Can we just lock this thread until November. Club football returns this weekend. Pipe down, Wyclef. Not a clue what that means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Lock this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Henderson's Ronaldinho pass Howay man. He's highly underrated, haven't you heard? Bottles tackles and hides behind teammates but he's underrated bro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 There are plenty of posts about him being shit and a post just on the last page about him being overrated. I reckon he's underrated but last night he was terrible, it's not that difficult a concept. If you watch Liverpool you'll see how useful he can be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I didn't even realise this was on until 9pm then I didn't bother with the rest Similar happened with the Malta game. Almost entirely disinterested at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I put it on with the background but it got that dull I just stopped watching. Becoming a bit of a joke these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Completely lost interest in the England team like. Watched about 10 mins of the Malta game and watched Location Location Location instead of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Four goals from the last five matches; Slovenia Malta Slovakia Iceland Slovakia Not to mention one was a pen and one was in the 95th minute! Shite! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Completely lost interest in the England team like. Watched about 10 mins of the Malta game and watched Location Location Location instead of this. You're hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 http://news.sky.com/story/police-feared-england-fan-deaths-in-battle-of-marseille-at-euro-2016-10613565 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 http://news.sky.com/story/police-feared-england-fan-deaths-in-battle-of-marseille-at-euro-2016-10613565 Our performances in qualifying recently would suggest we're hoping to not have to go to Russia, so that fits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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