Rafalove Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 https://youtu.be/8sjU8TSpFKY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 12 hours ago, Wilson said: Touch...ing youuuuuu Neil Diamond or The Darkness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 My dream would be for England to win it, have an audience with the Queen but then publicly refuse an invite to Downing Street on principle. We can but dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I’d rather they fucked the Queen off as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 The Queen can fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, UncleBingo said: My dream would be for England to win it, have an audience with the Queen but then publicly refuse an invite to Downing Street on principle. We can but dream. I mean, they could take a knee for the anthem and eliminate the need to refuse, by ensuring they're not invited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 So 18 months to the World Cup, unlikely to see many of the team drop out due to age and similarly unlikely to have any new young players get enough game time to make a compelling case to break into the team. So how do we build on the momentum from the World Cup and these Euros? Big risk that if nothing changes we go backwards and waste this generation of players imo - bit like losing the play off final. But who takes us forward? Yeah it's going to be Southgate but for his and the teams immediate future I'd make a change. Not many stand out candidates though, Howe maybe? Bruce? Pardew? Or do we need to look abroad again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Southgate is going nowhere. Way too much goodwill. No viable English replacement, and god forbid it's a forrin'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Southgate absolutely deserves the chance to take us into the World Cup. It shouldn't even be a debate. Thankfully, from the FA's point of view, it won't be. The heart of the team will still be there going into the tournament so we should have a shot at it again. Even the manager might learn some lessons; he's definitely humble and astute enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Southgate absolutely deserves the chance to take us into the World Cup. It shouldn't even be a debate. Thankfully, from the FA's point of view, it won't be. The heart of the team will still be there going into the tournament so we should have a shot at it again. Even the manager might learn some lessons; he's definitely humble and astute enough. didnt learn owt from the croatia semi in the world cup, or the the flukey win against denmark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 There was nothing flukey about the Denmark win in the slightest. Fair point re the similarities between Croatia/tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Posted this in the wrong thread. There’s absolutely no chance of Southgate not being in charge outside of some personal scandal which seems very unlikely. Play Sterling, Foden and Sancho behind Kane in the WC with Bellingham and Rice. Still have tons of talent on the bench like Grealish and Saka to bring on. Concentrate on your strengths and don’t be scared of every opponent and you should be favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Disagree that he didn't learn anything from Croatia. What fucked us there was that we ran out of energy after 60 minutes. We were done. We managed this tournament so well that in every game I was convinced as the game went on we'd win on fitness alone. There is progression - might not be perfect, but to say he's not learning is just bullshit imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) we ran out of energy after 60 minutes and he did nowt about it. Edited July 11, 2021 by huss9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, huss9 said: we ran out of energy after 60 minutes and he did nowt about it. Nah I'm sorry, energy levels is not why we lost tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, huss9 said: didnt learn owt from the croatia semi in the world cup, or the the flukey win against denmark. I'm only joining this discussion tonight because what I saw from Mancini was everything England could strive for in a manager. Southgate has many of those attributes - largely relating to the way he carries himself off the pitch, but he's in a different league compared to someone like Mancini/Enrique/Martinez when it comes to tactics and game management. I tell you what, Martinez would absolutely get the best out the talent of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Martinez can’t even get the best out of the best group of players in the world. Belgium are just England’s ‘Golden Generation’ all over again. They’ll win fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: Nah I'm sorry, energy levels is not why we lost tonight. no that was alluding to the semi against croatia in the WC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 The thing if Southgate left, who’d we get? Top managers want to manage in club football. If someone like Wenger fancied it (though he’s been out of the game a few years now) it’d be interesting but Southgate is probably as good as we’d get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 hours ago, LiquidAK said: Nah I'm sorry, energy levels is not why we lost tonight. You were just too passive, but Italy can play ridiculously well past the press, so Southgate didn't want to riski that. 5 defenders and 2 defensive midfielders.. That was a bit much. And he should have got Sterling off for Sancho or Rashford after 90. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 hours ago, huss9 said: no that was alluding to the semi against croatia in the WC Sorry - misinterpreted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Southgate has grown on me, he's a really good figurehead for the team and you can feel proud of having someone like him representing you as far as character goes. But he has maybe put too much emphasis on solid defence, and surely has the players to play on the ball a bit more. Felt he was a bit too cautious and should have used Foden and Grealish a bit more, even if that meant bringing them off the bench earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Have to trust that Southgate will learn fr what happened. He made mistakes with not adapting to Italy quicker and not trying to win the game in second half/extra time. But he's done so much to improve everything around the team, unite the player's and taken us further than we've been in decades. He's earned the right to continue with this group and show what more he can do and how he can improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 just dont think southgate has developed much in terms of "in-game management" since croatia in 2018. also i really think we need to stop this "brave/gallant loser" outlook in out sportsmen/women. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: The thing if Southgate left, who’d we get? Top managers want to manage in club football. If someone like Wenger fancied it (though he’s been out of the game a few years now) it’d be interesting but Southgate is probably as good as we’d get. Mancini and not just because they beat us last night. We do, however, need to be creating a hub of future would be English managers from within like with Southgate. Could Lampard or Gerrard make that step up for example? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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