Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Fuck off with the accusation of people desperate for him to fail. Fucking ridiculous. Err, it happened though. You cannot put so much vitriolic effort into slagging a player off and be fine with being proven wrong like. It's not how humans work. I'm not saying you did, but I'm assuming you've slagged him off in the past giving your touchy reaction. But your comment didn't touch a nerve with me personally - just that I found it ridiculous that some fans would resort to accusing fellows fans of such thing. Aye because UncleBingo doesn't come into the thread all the time calling him a lumbering idiot, we need to get rid, should have signed Austin instead etc. That other lad who's been obsessed with calling him 'Misstrovic' ever since he arrived obviously secretly wants him to do well too. Neesy who 'hates his personality' and said he was shite after the Norwich game must also be keen for him to make it here? In fairness to Neesy like he's a canny reactionary lad after/during the game Still though there's been a lot of pretty clear hatred for him probably since his red against Arsenal. I absolutely wanted Colback to fail when he arrived as I'd already made my bed (I actually kind of like the lad now). Ian wants the country to burn to the ground just to prove he didn't pick the wrong side on the referendum. People do need their opinions vindicated like, it is human nature. This doesn't mean that if you've slagged him off in the past that you want him to fail, I just know for a fact some people did and a few probably still do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Fuck off with the accusation of people desperate for him to fail. Fucking ridiculous. Err, it happened though. You cannot put so much vitriolic effort into slagging a player off and be fine with being proven wrong like. It's not how humans work. I'm not saying you did, but I'm assuming you've slagged him off in the past giving your touchy reaction. But your comment didn't touch a nerve with me personally - just that I found it ridiculous that some fans would resort to accusing fellows fans of such thing. Aye because UncleBingo doesn't come into the thread all the time calling him a lumbering idiot, we need to get rid, should have signed Austin instead etc. That other lad who's been obsessed with calling him 'Misstrovic' ever since he arrived obviously secretly wants him to do well too. Neesy who 'hates his personality' and said he was shite after the Norwich game must also be keen for him to make it here? In fairness to Neesy like he's a canny reactionary lad after/during the game Still though there's been a lot of pretty clear hatred for him probably since his red against Arsenal. I absolutely wanted Colback to fail when he arrived as I'd already made my bed (I actually kind of like the lad now). Ian wants the country to burn to the ground just to prove he didn't pick the wrong side on the referendum. People do need their opinions vindicated like, it is human nature. This doesn't mean that if you've slagged him off in the past that you want him to fail, I just know for a fact some people did and a few probably still do. fucking ian man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Fuck of liking Colback mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Honestly though if I'm being honest, there's nowt even wrong with it. Just about everyone is like that arent they? I'm only bringing Ian up because he actually admits to it Obviously he doesn't really want the world to end, or for there to even be any real, tangible negative effects of leaving Europe, but he doesn't want to see the smug reaction of the leave side knowing they were right. And obviously 'craves' the satisfaction of seeing them realise that they're wrong. That's what I mean with people desperate for Mitrovic to fail. It's more of a desperation to have their opinions vindicated, and the opposing argument to look foolish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 a little part of me deep down wants the country to go to shit following the referendum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 i agree with hans, i think a fair few people here and irl judged mitro early doors and that's it for them...unless he turns into shearer and starts belting in 20+ he'll never be good enough for some people despite the fact the £12m (14) we paid for him is a fucking pittance in this day and age and he's ridiculously young with plenty of time to come good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Aye we've seen it loads of times, it's hard to turn your opinion of a player around. I'm guilty of it probably more than anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 suppose i'm the polar opposite mind, i liked him from the moment he turned up so am willing to cut him loads of slack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I worried about his finishing, nothing to do with hatred or wanting him to fail, just need to see him stick a few more away like the second against Preston. That was a striker's goal, and the first time I've seen him show some real composure with the ball one on one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I worried about his finishing, nothing to do with hatred or wanting him to fail, just need to see him stick a few more away like the second against Preston. That was a striker's goal, and the first time I've seen him show some real composure with the ball one on one. He looked sharper than he has since Man Utd (?). On and off the ball. I'm sure he had a few good moments running with the ball as well as a not too embarrassing turn of pace during that game too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I think the main hurdle for Mitro is going to be Rafa fwiw. He likes to play a lone striker and a mobile one at that who can get behind defenders. That said, if you ignore the pace aspect, his hold up play could definitely be a plus in a formation with a single striker so there's plenty of possibilities if he can keep hitting the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 How anyone can say "never" i can't understand. Rafa probably prefers a striker like Gayle to be fair, but if Gayle has a period where he's not playing well and not scoring and Mitro gets the chance and grabs it with two hands and starts banging them in like never before then i'm sure that Rafa wont bench him just for the sake of it.. This was aimed at Klaus before he deleted his post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I think the main hurdle for Mitro is going to be Rafa fwiw. He likes to play a lone striker and a mobile one at that who can get behind defenders. That said, if you ignore the pace aspect, his hold up play could definitely be a plus in a formation with a single striker so there's plenty of possibilities if he can keep hitting the net. I don't think the pace thing is much of a problem if Atsu and Ritchie are on the wings tbh, although i don't consider the whole thing an issue either way. Rafa has two strikers who seem to be impacting the team in positive ways and they are both competing for the same spot. Can only be a good thing really and Mitrovic doesn't seem to have any complaints at least publicly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 f*** off with the accusation of people desperate for him to fail. f***ing ridiculous. Err, it happened though. You cannot put so much vitriolic effort into slagging a player off and be fine with being proven wrong like. It's not how humans work. I'm not saying you did, but I'm assuming you've slagged him off in the past giving your touchy reaction. But your comment didn't touch a nerve with me personally - just that I found it ridiculous that some fans would resort to accusing fellows fans of such thing. Aye because UncleBingo doesn't come into the thread all the time calling him a lumbering idiot, we need to get rid, should have signed Austin instead etc. That other lad who's been obsessed with calling him 'Misstrovic' ever since he arrived obviously secretly wants him to do well too. Neesy who 'hates his personality' and said he was s**** after the Norwich game must also be keen for him to make it here? In fairness to Neesy like he's a canny reactionary lad after/during the game Still though there's been a lot of pretty clear hatred for him probably since his red against Arsenal. I absolutely wanted Colback to fail when he arrived as I'd already made my bed (I actually kind of like the lad now). Ian wants the country to burn to the ground just to prove he didn't pick the wrong side on the referendum. People do need their opinions vindicated like, it is human nature. This doesn't mean that if you've slagged him off in the past that you want him to fail, I just know for a fact some people did and a few probably still do. I think I've called him a lumbering oaf twice, and questioned his finishing on a few occasions, and based on the vast majority of his performances I haven't been wrong. My main gripe was I just didn't get the cult hero status, as I don't think he'd done anything you earn it. He played really well the other night and long may it continue, he will be an asset for us if he can perform like that every week. Desperate for him to fail, wind yer neck in will you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Still hoping for the day we'll see Mitro, Gayle, Ritchie and Atsu on the pitch together with Shelvey and Hayden central. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Some of what you've said about the (at the time) 21 year old Mitrovic during and after his first season in English football: I said about a month ago that Mitrovic was another one of 'Carr's duffers' and was shouted down as a WUM. Useless fat c***. Said this back in August. We would have been comfortably in midtable by now if we'd had Austin instead of this fat pudding. Keeps on missing very presentable chances and looks incredibly slow. It might upset a few on here but I think he's a pudding. Should have bought Austin. Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. We need to forget about this lumbering oaf, and bring a proper striker in. Mitrovic is a bad tempered, profligate, lumbering, fat pudding and should be nowhere near the number 9 shirt. Quite frankly, he's not fit to lick it's boots. Lest we forget he almost single-handedly relegated us with his dog shit finishing. I prefer Shitrovic myself. I'm not going to mention his finishing but all he had to do for the 15 minutes he was on yesterday, was put their centre halves under a bit of pressure, and hold the ball up when it came to him. Two basic aspects of the game your average Sunday League striker shouldn't struggle with. His half-arsed trotting around, and ludicrous back heel attempt was fucking shocking for a bloke on the sort of money he's on. I doubt the other players and manager were very impressed either. Wind yer neck in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 So basically... anyone who criticizes a player for being crap for a particularly crap period has no right to then say comment on change, if it occurs? I think you need to take a step back and realize most of us here support NUFC and want the club to do well, regardless of sometimes over-the-top, feelings-runneth-over comments directed at some players who haven't performed as well as they could or should have, for a variety of reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 So basically... anyone who criticizes a player for being crap for a particularly crap period has no right to then say comment on change, if it occurs? I think you need to take a step back and realize most of us here support NUFC and want the club to do well, regardless of sometimes over-the-top, feelings-runneth-over comments directed at some players who haven't performed as well as they could or should have, for a variety of reasons. Are you being wilfully thick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 So basically... anyone who criticizes a player for being crap for a particularly crap period has no right to then say comment on change, if it occurs? I think you need to take a step back and realize most of us here support NUFC and want the club to do well, regardless of sometimes over-the-top, feelings-runneth-over comments directed at some players who haven't performed as well as they could or should have, for a variety of reasons. Are you being wilfully thick? Yes, the Ronaldo school of jumping to personal insults immediately when someone makes an opposing comment. You've just lost all credibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Cannot be arsed anyway, pretty clear difference between criticising a player playing poorly and the over the top vitriol spewed at certain players at certain times. I know for a fact it happens and it'll be pretty much impossible to convince me otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 So basically... anyone who criticizes a player for being crap for a particularly crap period has no right to then say comment on change, if it occurs? I think you need to take a step back and realize most of us here support NUFC and want the club to do well, regardless of sometimes over-the-top, feelings-runneth-over comments directed at some players who haven't performed as well as they could or should have, for a variety of reasons. Are you being wilfully thick? Yes, the Ronaldo school of jumping to personal insults immediately when someone makes an opposing comment. You've just lost all credibility. Because you're talking absolute shite and had completely ignored everything I'd said. Like I'd suggested anything close to that in bold man. I cannot be arsed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 So basically... anyone who criticizes a player for being crap for a particularly crap period has no right to then say comment on change, if it occurs? I think you need to take a step back and realize most of us here support NUFC and want the club to do well, regardless of sometimes over-the-top, feelings-runneth-over comments directed at some players who haven't performed as well as they could or should have, for a variety of reasons. Are you being wilfully thick? Yes, the Ronaldo school of jumping to personal insults immediately when someone makes an opposing comment. You've just lost all credibility. Because you're talking absolute shite and had completely ignored everything I'd said. I cannot be arsed. Neither can I. Carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Cannot be arsed anyway, pretty clear difference between criticising a player playing poorly and the over the top vitriol spewed at certain players at certain times. I know for a fact it happens and it'll be pretty much impossible to convince me otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Cannot be arsed anyway, pretty clear difference between criticising a player playing poorly and the over the top vitriol spewed at certain players at certain times. I know for a fact it happens and it'll be pretty much impossible to convince me otherwise. Yep, I'm with Hans on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Cannot be arsed anyway, pretty clear difference between criticising a player playing poorly and the over the top vitriol spewed at certain players at certain times. I know for a fact it happens and it'll be pretty much impossible to convince me otherwise. Thing is, I don't take this "over the top vitriol" he mentions seriously. All the "Misstrovic" and "Jack Dracula Colback" posts are to be taken in jest, not at face value as if the person has a fucking poster of Colback or Mitro in their home they use as a dart board. People need to fucking calm down and put down the pitchforks. Do we have to suffer through this all over again if / when Colback turns into a worldbeater? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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