54 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I'm upset for him as he more then deserves the call up, the difference in form for when he's in our team and not is absurd. On the other hand, i'm glad he and seemingly other members of the squad arn't jetting off for friendly matches before a crucial run in, and get to spend the three weeks with Rafa and the back room team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 At this stage in a critical season for us I am pretty glad that Lascelles is not in the squad, it would be typical NUFC luck for him to get an England call up with all the ceremony that comes with it and to then receive a season ending injury in training from the mistimed challenge of a team mate that makes our run in and Premier League security even more treacherous.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 He could also get injured in Spain, like. He could get Antwerped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 At this stage in a critical season for us I am pretty glad that Lascelles is not in the squad, it would be typical NUFC luck for him to get an England call up with all the ceremony that comes with it and to then receive a season ending injury in training from the mistimed challenge of a team mate that makes our run in and Premier League security even more treacherous.... Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 He could also get injured in Spain, like. He could get Antwerped. Aye but that would be our own fault. Really no need to give him too much game time. England duty is a different matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 That's a joke. Disappointed for Lascelles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Baffling imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Think people are being a bit disrespectful to Mawson & Tarkowski like. They're just as worthy of call-ups as Lascelles is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Don't like the happiness he's been overlooked cause he might get injured. This lad has been instrumental in dragging the club up with Rafa and we might stay up. He'll now miss a world cup that could be the only one he is ever in contention for I'm sad for the lad because he deserves it. As much as the other players may be having good seasons I'm confident none of them have the leadership and character of this lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Whether you agree with Southgate or not he's not picked Smalling because of his limitations on the ball, and Lascelles fits into the same category. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Whether you agree with Southgate or not he's not picked Smalling because of his limitations on the ball, and Lascelles fits into the same category. He has improved massively in that area to be fair. He’s no Rio Ferdinand, but he rarely gives it away and is comfortable with the ball at his feet. When was the last time he just hacked it forward or aimed a punt up field? He takes his time and is assured these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Smallimg has regressed massively, I remember when he and Jones were considered top prospects and the future of Man Utd and England. He’s still a good player Smalling mind, but he’s being asked to be some kind of leader and it’s that type of player he needs alongside him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 You would think Southgate, of all England managers, would be well placed to spot talented CBs and leaders. Disappointed for him if it means he has no chance of going to Russia; you don’t get many chances of a World Cup. Given the existing competition I will be very surprised if he doesn’t get his chance at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 We would need a concerted effort from the likes of Shearer to champion his cause to make Southgate take notice, thats sadly how it’s done these days. I still believe a lot of younger less established players are called up and given caps because it will add value to a transfer/wages which I’m sure gets kicked back to the manager and FA by agents etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Don't think he's good enough on the ball to play in the England team when you take into account how Southgate wants them to play. Personally think Lascelles is a really good defender, but his overall game isn't strong enough when you take into account his ability to play passes into midfield/play under pressure. He needs to be exposed to a team that wants to play attacking football, to build play from the back regularly. Unless Rafa (or whichever poor sod is here in the summer) is given money to invest in the squad then that won't happen as we will simply have to play to survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Terry wasn't great on the ball either but he had Rio Ferdinand beside him. I think Lascelles might complement someone like say Stones quite well TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddydog Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Ambivalent about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Terry wasn't great on the ball either but he had Rio Ferdinand beside him. I think Lascelles might complement someone like say Stones quite well TBH. Thats a cracking shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Terry wasn't great on the ball either but he had Rio Ferdinand beside him. I think Lascelles might complement someone like say Stones quite well TBH. Terry wasn't a great long passer but was really assured off both feet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Call me old fashioned but i would prefer my central defender to be a defender first, it's not as if Jamal can't pass the thing. To say he not good enough for England under Gareth Fucking Southgate because he's not good enough on the ball is fucking utter tripe. Can Jamal defend - yes, is he good in the air - yes, is he ok on the ball - yes, is he leader - too fucking right he is. If it's about him not being good enough on the ball then James Bumblefuckname of Burnley must be Franco Baresi. Jamal deserves a call up because is and has been a very good defender this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Don't think he's good enough on the ball to play in the England team when you take into account how Southgate wants them to play. Personally think Lascelles is a really good defender, but his overall game isn't strong enough when you take into account his ability to play passes into midfield/play under pressure. He needs to be exposed to a team that wants to play attacking football, to build play from the back regularly. Unless Rafa (or whichever poor sod is here in the summer) is given money to invest in the squad then that won't happen as we will simply have to play to survive. Does it well enough for us, it’s not like Emgland are Man City and dominate possession, if anything they are more like us. He’d be fine in an England shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Which games did Lascelles miss this season? Man United (a) Chelsea (a) I think those were two... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Can't say I'm surprised that Southgate overlooked him and went for more 'high-profiled' players a first call up. Not saying Lascelles hasn't been talked about in the media but the wankfest over the Swansea and Burnley lads this season has made Southgate jump on that bandwagon too. And Livermore getting a call-up just goes to show how clueless he is. Less than 100 days before a World Cup and a taxi-stealing, bottom of the table side managed by f***ing Pardew player gets a last chance to impress to get on the flight to Russia? A joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I feel sorry for him as he deserves it but I couldn't give a rat's arse about England at present as it's all about us staying up so I'm pleased that he's staying with us and working under Rafa! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Terry was a good passer. Just for his leadership skills, it’s a fuck up by Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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