TRon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: We are paying Isak £100k+ to only play 50% of matches. And he costs £10m a year in amortisation for FFP. £15m p/a for a player to feature in 50% of matches. Is that not a bigger problem? If we fix his injury issues, we fix the back-up problem too. How much do we pay Targett, Krafth, Dummett, Ritchie? They don't play under any circumstances. You wouldn't. We had Chris Wood who is a serviceable PL striker who has scored goals everywhere he's played. Everyone hated him. Any legitimately good backup striker (who is not old) won't want to be a backup for long. Our problem is our backup striker has needed to play too many minutes this season. ---- IMO there are 2 types of "back-up" striker in the modern game typically at the highest level. Maybe 3. 1. The not-good-enough backup: Nketiah maybe Jhon at Villa. These lads are proper backup strikers who only play 9. Only problem is they aren't v. good and their managers often prefer to play other players at ST anyway. 2. Great player who is more natural elsewhere but can play ST: Trossard, Havertz, Alvarez. These players get most of their other minutes in other positions but can play uptop too. IMO we have that in Gordon and Barnes is a superb deputy LW. No problem with this but we already have it. Does Isak have a poor injury record prior to signing for Newcastle? I wouldn't use this season as a benchmark where he's been used more than we would like due to two games a week. If we had a half decent back up striker who stays fit, then you would use him more judiciously and keep him in tip top form. Either way, you can't have two strikers who are fragile, you can have one at most. If you are going to choose between Isak and Wilson, which one would you want to keep here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Just now, TRon said: Does Isak have a poor injury record prior to signing for Newcastle? I wouldn't use this season as a benchmark where he's been used more than we would like due to two games a week. If we had a half decent back up striker who stays fit, then you would use him more judiciously and keep him in tip top form. Either way, you can't have two strikers who are fragile, you can have one at most. If you are going to choose between Isak and Wilson, which one would you want to keep here? No - which is even worse news. He missed a grip of games last season and missed loads this season. Agree you can't. The bigger problem is the £60m £100k+ a week main man. And Howe isn't going to rotate Isak with a significantly lesser player to any meaningful extent. We should know that by now. We have a super talented £30m+ RB who isn't rotating with the exceptional 33-year-old RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: No - which is even worse news. He missed a grip of games last season and missed loads this season. Agree you can't. The bigger problem is the £60m £100k+ a week main man. And Howe isn't going to rotate Isak with a significantly lesser player to any meaningful extent. We should know that by now. We have a super talented £30m+ RB who isn't rotating with the exceptional 33-year-old RB. So you would sell Isak and hold onto Wilson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 13 minutes ago, TRon said: So you would sell Isak and hold onto Wilson? No - I would work on Isak's conditioning in the summer. Perhaps adapt the tactics slightly. I'm happy with Isak - Wilson - Gordon as our 3 options. Especially with Barnes & Big Joe able to deputies at LW. Biggest problems in the first-team are (1) lack ability in midfield to control a game. Tonali goes a long way to solving that. (2) lack of guile going forward. A creative RW should contribute to that and number 1. (3) Lack athleticism in defence. A pacey CB/LB would solve that. Everything else is 1 in 1 out for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Must be close to a testimonial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Rafalove said: Must be close to a testimonial. Should invite the 2011/12 squad to sell out the stadium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: No - I would work on Isak's conditioning in the summer. Perhaps adapt the tactics slightly. I'm happy with Isak - Wilson - Gordon as our 3 options. Especially with Barnes & Big Joe able to deputies at LW. Biggest problems in the first-team are (1) lack ability in midfield to control a game. Tonali goes a long way to solving that. (2) lack of guile going forward. A creative RW should contribute to that and number 1. (3) Lack athleticism in defence. A pacey CB/LB would solve that. Everything else is 1 in 1 out for me. Nah… Isak - Wilson replacement - Gordon surely… The last two seasons should tell you that. I’m a Wilson fan for the record but his fitness I fear is only going one way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Since Isak came back from the only long term injury he has had in his career shortly after joining us, he has missed 8 league games out of 48, with one of those being a suspected concussion. Outside of the serious thigh injury he has missed about 13 league games out of just under 170 over the last 5 seasons, with the rest either starting or on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Rafalove said: Must be close to a testimonial. He’s past the ten season mark already - so in the traditional sense, he should have had one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Happy for him to stay another year, but I'd be concerned if we didn't bring in a CB in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 08/03/2024 at 09:42, SUPERTOON said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gbandit Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Well done Jamaal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) what the actual fuck man Edited March 31 by Jack27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Done his ACL out for 6-9 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Jesus christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 How on earth did he manage to get back up and try and run it off!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 cursed this season hindsight I know if only we didnt waste money on triggering a years extension Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Lol, it's basically a copy and paste of the Botman one last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Legit might be Alex Murphy szn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Letting him try and run it off doesn’t seem the best move but at least he’s not played like a man on one leg for months before having the operation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Just now, SteV said: How on earth did he manage to get back up and try and run it off!? I remember Callum Wilson did the same years back at Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Wow. This season, man. Some boy, Jamaal. Trying to run off a ruptured ACL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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