TK-421 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 If Saiss did wind him up about being bald then played the race card, then he's just a c***. But that's unlikely as he can hardly speak English apperantly. I doubt Shelvey's actually racist, but anyone can probably snap and say something insulting when wound up. It's what happens. People say something they know will offend to lash out. Of course that doesn't mean Shelvey is/isn't racist. Only he himself knows that. Apparently it was a teammate that overheard the comment, and then reported it after the game - not Saiss himself. The initial report suggested he hadn't even heard/understood what had been said to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 If Saiss did wind him up about being bald then played the race card, then he's just a c***. But that's unlikely as he can hardly speak English apperantly. I doubt Shelvey's actually racist, but anyone can probably snap and say something insulting when wound up. It's what happens. People say something they know will offend to lash out. Of course that doesn't mean Shelvey is/isn't racist. Only he himself knows that. Apparently it was a teammate that overheard the comment, and then reported it after the game - not Saiss himself. The initial report suggested he hadn't even heard/understood what had been said to him. I wouldn't put it past Shelvey tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Me neither, they're all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 does Saiss have the option to not press charges, or is it out of his hands since the accusation was made by his teammate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 does Saiss have the option to not press charges, or is it out of his hands since the accusation was made by his teammate? I think it's gone beyond that now, since it's gone public and become a massive issue may as well get it in the open and let the FA deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Whatever did or didn't happen, I'm assuming there's no audio or video evidence. If that is the case then it is the say so of the two Wolves' players against the say so of Shelvey and his witness. I don't see how the FA can find Shelvey guilty based on that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Something was obviously said. It just depends whether it was misheard or not. What rhymes with any anti-arab/Muslim slurs? He's basically trying the Stan vs school bus driver South Park defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Worth pointing out these tribunals have a lower burden of evidence than a criminal court, not necessarily needing to be 'beyond reasonable doubt', so judgements are easier (and also more open for ambiguity i guess) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Again there must be similar incidents in the past. Do the details actually get revealed after the charge is settled? Or do we speculate whether he's Hitler or not for the rest of his time here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Something was obviously said. It just depends whether it was misheard or not. What rhymes with any anti-arab/Muslim slurs? He's basically trying the Stan vs school bus driver South Park defence. Are you aiming to close this thread again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Wasn't tryin to diss ya About ya alo piss ya But ya cannot be a cock, bro About me being from Morro -co Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 The rumor come out: Does Shelvey is racist? Jonjo Shelvey is racist is the most discussed in the media in the few years ago. Even it has happened in 2016, but some of the public still curious about what is exactly happening and to be the reason there is a rumor comes out about his racist. At that time he became the massive social networking rumor. The public, especially Newcastle fans, is shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which is spread massively. This time is not about his football career, but his bad rumor. The rumor is out of standardize of hoax, according the last reported this footballer revealed himself as racist. Do you still believe or not, this rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his Newcastle fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 You had a blow to the head, Bluestar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Someone trapped BlueStar in Google translate ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 The rumor come out: Does Shelvey is racist? Jonjo Shelvey is racist is the most discussed in the media in the few years ago. Even it has happened in 2016, but some of the public still curious about what is exactly happening and to be the reason there is a rumor comes out about his racist. At that time he became the massive social networking rumor. The public, especially Newcastle fans, is shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which is spread massively. This time is not about his football career, but his bad rumor. The rumor is out of standardize of hoax, according the last reported this footballer revealed himself as racist. Do you still believe or not, this rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his Newcastle fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 It's actually funny if you know the source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 The rumor come out: Does Shelvey is racist? Jonjo Shelvey is racist is the most discussed in the media in the few years ago. Even it has happened in 2016, but some of the public still curious about what is exactly happening and to be the reason there is a rumor comes out about his racist. At that time he became the massive social networking rumor. The public, especially Newcastle fans, is shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which is spread massively. This time is not about his football career, but his bad rumor. The rumor is out of standardize of hoax, according the last reported this footballer revealed himself as racist. Do you still believe or not, this rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his Newcastle fans. I is like you story. It are nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lush Vlad Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 The rumor come out: Does Shelvey is racist? Jonjo Shelvey is racist is the most discussed in the media in the few years ago. Even it has happened in 2016, but some of the public still curious about what is exactly happening and to be the reason there is a rumor comes out about his racist. At that time he became the massive social networking rumor. The public, especially Newcastle fans, is shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which is spread massively. This time is not about his football career, but his bad rumor. The rumor is out of standardize of hoax, according the last reported this footballer revealed himself as racist. Do you still believe or not, this rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his Newcastle fans. Read more at chroniclelive.co.uk http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/e1/pd/4221396001/4221396001_4459327924001_4459292041001-vs.jpg?pubId=4221396001 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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High Five o Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 The rumor come out: Does Shelvey is racist? Jonjo Shelvey is racist is the most discussed in the media in the few years ago. Even it has happened in 2016, but some of the public still curious about what is exactly happening and to be the reason there is a rumor comes out about his racist. At that time he became the massive social networking rumor. The public, especially Newcastle fans, is shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which is spread massively. This time is not about his football career, but his bad rumor. The rumor is out of standardize of hoax, according the last reported this footballer revealed himself as racist. Do you still believe or not, this rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his Newcastle fans. Excellent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 The rumor come out: Does Shelvey is racist? Jonjo Shelvey is racist is the most discussed in the media in the few years ago. Even it has happened in 2016, but some of the public still curious about what is exactly happening and to be the reason there is a rumor comes out about his racist. At that time he became the massive social networking rumor. The public, especially Newcastle fans, is shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which is spread massively. This time is not about his football career, but his bad rumor. The rumor is out of standardize of hoax, according the last reported this footballer revealed himself as racist. Do you still believe or not, this rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his Newcastle fans. Read more at chroniclelive.co.uk http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/e1/pd/4221396001/4221396001_4459327924001_4459292041001-vs.jpg?pubId=4221396001 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 The rumor come out: Does Shelvey is racist? Jonjo Shelvey is racist is the most discussed in the media in the few years ago. Even it has happened in 2016, but some of the public still curious about what is exactly happening and to be the reason there is a rumor comes out about his racist. At that time he became the massive social networking rumor. The public, especially Newcastle fans, is shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which is spread massively. This time is not about his football career, but his bad rumor. The rumor is out of standardize of hoax, according the last reported this footballer revealed himself as racist. Do you still believe or not, this rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his Newcastle fans. Read more at chroniclelive.co.uk http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/e1/pd/4221396001/4221396001_4459327924001_4459292041001-vs.jpg?pubId=4221396001 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Is/was Shelvey's FA hearing today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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