Optimistic Nut Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He was having a very good game. It's a constant trade-off with Shelvey, he's the best player on the pitch regularly but has 5 minute lapses of focus; which when playing to such fine margins as we are this season - you often pay for them. For me he still starts every game like, some will disagree with me here and see it more as a 50/50 split, but I believe the good work he does remains to outweigh the bad. What he brings to the table when on it is not found much outside of the top clubs and I treasure it personally. Saturday suggests it is 50-50 though. Great pass for the first goal is offset because he's not fit enough to track runners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He was having a very good game. It's a constant trade-off with Shelvey, he's the best player on the pitch regularly but has 5 minute lapses of focus; which when playing to such fine margins as we are this season - you often pay for them. For me he still starts every game like, some will disagree with me here and see it more as a 50/50 split, but I believe the good work he does remains to outweigh the bad. What he brings to the table when on it is not found much outside of the top clubs and I treasure it personally. Saturday suggests it is 50-50 though. Great pass for the first goal is offset because he's not fit enough to track runners. Maybe so. He done plenty of other good things in the match though, and whilst the two you have pointed out led to goals for & against, I think what he brings to our general play over the course of 90 minutes is worth something too. He's integral to nearly everything we do offensively and players are always looking to give him the ball, that counts for something I think and shouldn't be erased because of a mistake. Fair play if you see it different though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 No good having someone only capable of 60-70 minutes like. I'd bring Merino in. I wonder if Rafa is kicking himself for not subbing Shelvey with 20 mins to go? I can only imagine he thought he'd be fit to do the full 90. I think he's going to feel let down by his efforts for those two goals, they cost us a crucial two points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Shelvey was brilliant for the whole 90 odd minutes against Man Utd, it's a shame he's let himself and us down this weekend with his last 10 or so minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He also created our first goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He should have been subbed after their first goal. He was stood watching his man run off him to score with his hands on his knees, he was knackered. Two days later and I still can’t fathom why Rafa chose to bring Manquillo on for Ritchie instead. We needed legs in midfield, Merino was the clear call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He should have been subbed after their first goal. He was stood watching his man run off him to score with his hands on his knees, he was knackered. Two days later and I still can’t fathom why Rafa chose to bring Manquillo on for Ritchie instead. We needed legs in midfield, Merino was the clear call. Moar Leftbacks, innit. No More Goalz. Rafalan Parditez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsoldier Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Funny how there's people still cracking on about ben arfa who disappeared in many more games than he was any good and never tracked a runner in his life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 So much nonsense in every thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He should have been subbed after their first goal. He was stood watching his man run off him to score with his hands on his knees, he was knackered. Two days later and I still can’t fathom why Rafa chose to bring Manquillo on for Ritchie instead. We needed legs in midfield, Merino was the clear call. It was Ritchie's man who scored the first goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Funny how there's people still cracking on about ben arfa who disappeared in many more games than he was any good and never tracked a runner in his life. i can't even.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Has to be a WUM. Nobody can actually be that stupid. Right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He should have been subbed after their first goal. He was stood watching his man run off him to score with his hands on his knees, he was knackered. Two days later and I still can’t fathom why Rafa chose to bring Manquillo on for Ritchie instead. We needed legs in midfield, Merino was the clear call. It was Ritchie's man who scored the first goal Badly worded, Ritchie is on the chase throughout the move, Shelvey can see Smith run into the space and does nothing. It’s done and dusted now but it was a poor substitution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 In the final seconds of a match, when virtually all of his teammates are in our box desperately trying to see the game out he should be doing he same. I don't care what position he's playing. He's a midfielder and started the game there, it's not good enough to just switch off responsibility because he's at number 10 or whatever. As a midfielder he should be thinking about where he would want to be and tracking the opposition. It may have made no difference whatsoever so it's not a case of simply blaming him for the result. It just wasn't good enough from him, as rightly pointed out on MOTD. Let's not forget that one of the most important moments of the Man U win was Gayle's double block when back helping defend for our lives. Even if Shelvey was shifted to a No 10 role, I don't think Rafa would've told him not to worry about defending because of that, and I don't believe Shelvey is that thick to think otherwise himself. Gayle's were completely different, like. He was in positon to defend a corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Funny how there's people still cracking on about ben arfa who disappeared in many more games than he was any good and never tracked a runner in his life. Piss off, you blatant WUM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Dave, get onto MI5 about these Russian bellends, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Don't think footsoldier is Russian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Don't think footsoldier is Russian Just a British infantryman, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Don't think footsoldier is Russian If he's a Kremlin troll, he must be the retarded nephew of one of the top government troll masters, so they put him on the NUFC beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 partridgeshrug.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Convenient injury, after being called out on MotD by Lampard. Meh, bring Merino in.... probably need his more defensive side against Liverpool anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 He was holding both of them when the goals went in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 That's what happens when you keep resting your hands on them I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsoldier Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Funny how there's people still cracking on about ben arfa who disappeared in many more games than he was any good and never tracked a runner in his life. p*ss off, you blatant WUM. I beginning to think you most of you on here are seriously deluded. The statement is absolutely correct. Harping on about Shelvey not working hard enough, not tracking and creaming your pants over Ben Arfa is such a double standard. Perez's miss was as bad if not far worse than Shelvey's and yet its getting nowhere near the attention. Probably because people know Perez is shite but the clique on here don't want to come out and say it in case it upsets somebody. There's a difference between calling it as it is and being a WUM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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