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Valencia was milking it for all it was worth also, pretty sure from the replay the arm never even reached his face.

Indeed, was looking for that on the replay. No contact with the face at all... But of course that's the first thing Valencia went for.

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brilliant debut.  The long pass to Janmaat was sublime.  Love lethal touch football.

Colback doesn't even dream of attempting that kind of pass. Let alone actually trying and pulling it off.

 

Colback is so negative he even tried to turn back to someone behind...when he was the last man! :lol:

Chalk and cheese between him and Shelvey today. Shelvey was on everything, trying to make forward passes, even when they couldn't go forward his passes were still progressive. Colback was unseen in first half apart from committing a foul to give West Ham a cheap free kick. What the hell Colback was trying to do in the 2nd half when he was on the ground shielding the ball in our own box I'll never know, he should have just got rid of it.
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67 yards for his pass.

It was outrageous like, probably one of the best ball I've seen a Newcastle player make in years.

 

Remember watching Ben Arfa kill a pass like that stone dead under his boot a few years ago. Nearly came.

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67 yards for his pass.

It was outrageous like, probably one of the best ball I've seen a Newcastle player make in years.

It was, even before Janmmat whipped in the cross I was praising that pass. The vision to see Janmaat, and then to execute it. West Ham players simply did not know what to do when he had the ball, he was producing great passes and in the end they just stood off him and watched him make passes and tried to deal with it after he had done so.
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It's amazing what having a proper midfielder in the middle can do like.

His ability to sit deep and make those kinds of passes and to come forward and make them combined with Sissoko's and Winjaldum's ability to run at defences offers us so much more going forward.
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It's outrageous than non of the other guys ever cottoned onto passing the ball forwards like.

Actually I think that's unfair, a fair few of them followed Shelvey's example today, fair enough a lot of them were not difficult passes but there was a lot more passing creativity from the rest of the team today.
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It's not unfair at all :lol:

 

Colback and Anita have been utter toss due to their reluctance to get the ball forwards.

I thought you were talking about today, if your on about in general then yeah I fully agree with you.
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brilliant debut.  The long pass to Janmaat was sublime.  Love lethal touch football.

Colback doesn't even dream of attempting that kind of pass. Let alone actually trying and pulling it off.

 

He did for Sammy's goal vs Spurs but I see your point.

 

It's always frustrated me that he is capable of a pass like that but he's either too stupid or too scared to attempt it.

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brilliant debut.  The long pass to Janmaat was sublime.  Love lethal touch football.

Colback doesn't even dream of attempting that kind of pass. Let alone actually trying and pulling it off.

 

He did for Sammy's goal vs Spurs but I see your point.

 

It's always frustrated me that he is capable of a pass like that but he's either too stupid or too scared to attempt it.

Colback did a little while later but it was higher and less driven which basically meant Janmaat couldn't go outside by the time the ball came to him (annoys the nads off me when people are screaming that a player is open and think the opposition will politely stand still till the ball gets there), that near 70yd driven ball to feet is a talent not many of the best pros can do regularly.
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I'm really uncertain about this one. Certainly Anita, Colback, and Tiote don't possess his long-range passing ability, and he has a decent shot from outside the area, although my understanding is that since being moved back into the centre of midfield, he has played around the same number of games and scored the same number of goals as Colback. He is big and physical, but Swansea fans seem critical of his defensive contribution, and he was being called out for laziness by Monk over a year ago.

 

Is long passing a vital component missing from our attack? Would we be better instead with someone who presses and can play quick short balls through the midfield to Wijnaldum and Sissoko? My inclination is the latter. Maybe Saivet is tidy and energetic and can complement Shelvey well, but I really don't want to see some arrogant lug constantly playing Hollywood balls, taking long shots, and shouting at more hardworking teammates. I guess I'm cautiously pessimistic about the transfer.

 

i see it as the opposite, albeit from a very hopeful perspective, in that having someone with a range of passing will perhaps finally break the pardew stranglehold on the players that has meant no fucker has ran off the ball for years so we rarely get in behind teams

 

get janmaat, sissoko, wijnaldum and perez making runs for shelvey to pick out and we could look like a very different team indeed, in theory

 

:smugdog:

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Valencia was milking it for all it was worth also, pretty sure from the replay the arm never even reached his face.

Indeed, was looking for that on the replay. No contact with the face at all... But of course that's the first thing Valencia went for.

 

It didn't look that serious, but what Shelvey needs to realise is that he's now playing for a higher-profile club. The media wouldn't be paying any attention to that incident if he was still at Swansea, but our trials and tribulations make news, and they will try to blow things up.

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