Jonjo Shelvey (now playing for Burnley)

[toontownman]

2 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

Potentially very unpopular opinion but I think our midfield is better when Shelvey is in it. Shelvey can actually pass the ball relatively well forwards. He's still a twat and fucking liability, plus it's probably more an indictment on how bad our midfield options are but aye. Much rather he started than Longstaff, but if we played a 4-2-3-1, 4-4-1-1 or any real midfield which requires 2 central midfielders my choices are Hayden and Willock. When Willock isn't available or fit, I'd go for baldy.

That all depends on the opponents and type of game imo. If it opens up and there is space and time Shelvey can be an asset. If we have enough of an offensive threat that can make the opposition defend maybe we can open up some of that space. Brighton tired badly in the second half, which is where Shelvey started to remember what he was capable of. If he does nothing the rest of the game and mince around creating more work and space for those around him to have to cover then he isn't worth it. The likes of Longstaff, Almiron and Hayden haven't had a chance because they are covering some much ground for Jonjo. 

 

He can up his game though. There was a great period under Rafa where it looked like he could start back on the journey to fulfilling his potential. Workrate was high, lots of tackling and dangerous in possession. It just never lasted though. I expect something similar, so wouldn't be surprised if he gets time on the pitch under Howe. At least until January, if not the summer. 

[Slim]

1 hour ago, Miggys First Goal said:

 

Is that Neesy's talking?  if not sounds exactly like him.

[joeyt]

His best game for ages

[Sima]

Decent today. Apart from a couple of brainless moments his decision making was good.

[Dancing Brave]

5 minutes ago, joeyt said:

His best game for ages

Yes, i agree but that didn't take much to be honest.

[Thumbheed]

Thought he had a very good second half and happy to see his workrate but not sure Willock was the right partner for him and vice versa. 

 

 

[Dokko]

Best game for us. There is hope for him.

[HaydnNUFC]

Aye, Shelvey was brilliant today. His best game for years. 

[Billy Pilgrim]

He’s got a long way to go but games like today show why he’s still a premier league footballer. In the right system, with enough time and space, he offers something most other teams don’t have. Just doesn’t have the legs to take it up a level or the brain for consistency. 

[jack j]

Today is why he boils me piss. Looked a different level to anything else on the pitch at times. Probably be another year til we see it again now

[Fantail Breeze]

Can’t believe I saw him running back, at pace, to defend after we lost the ball. ‘kin hell.

 

As we know with Jonjo though, he’ll have one of these games and another four where he can’t be arsed.

[cookidge]

He absolutely ran the game today. Looked every bit the real deal. Which is why I feel so angry now. There's a reason why he was in contention for an England call up a couple year back. More of this please Jonjo.

[Newcastle Fan]

If we have a Jonjo that's actually fully switched on he could be an asset, today he showed it but we need him to try and play like this more often than not.

[Dokko]

29 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Can’t believe I saw him running back, at pace, to defend after we lost the ball. ‘kin hell.

 

As we know with Jonjo though, he’ll have one of these games and another four where he can’t be arsed.

Him & Joe were my MotM and they were also our best defenders. 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

The trouble is he’s so immobile. He needs to play deep which means he ends up as cover for the defence and he just provides 0 protection. We actually have enough going forward (if fit) to not really need him to open teams up and I honestly think he will do more harm than good if he’s an ever present. 

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

Played well today but isn’t irreplaceable. There’s others who can switch play in one move.

 

Shop well in January and we can gladly say goodbye.

[NEEJ]

Credit where credit's due, the knacker played well today. Hopefully he continues like that all the way though January before he's peddled and replaced. 

[gazza ladra]

Jonjo 

[Wallsendmag]

Absolutely fantastic today. Can do things no other player in the team could even dream of with that passing range. Toss up between him and Joelinton for MOTM. Joelinton better 1st half but faded a bit after half time and that slip proved costly.

[Bompeter]

Will inevitably revert to type soon and leave people feeling like dickheads for allowing themselves to forget what an absolute waste of space clown he is. 

[KaKa]

Looked so good today man. Shocked at how well he closed down and also won the ball.

 

Might just be that Howe is the type of manager that gets through to him, if so that would be great, because he can add a lot to the team. Let down by his midfield partner today really, as Willock was poor in that central midfield role.

 

It was interesting watching match of the day and seeing them highlight in the Chelsea game how Jorginho sat deeper and pinged balls about, while Kante got further forward and tried to create overloads higher up the pitch, in their 3-4-3. We seemed to try to mimick that partnership a bit with Jonjo deep and Willock getting forward, but Willock just didn't do enough at all.

 

 

Edited November 20, 2021 by KaKa

[gazza ladra]

Interesting that that he was the one player that Howe singled out by name before the game. Made it clear that Shevley would be important to our success. And he responded.

 

Hope the Jedi mind tricks can work long term.

[Chris_R]

1 hour ago, Bompeter said:

Will inevitably revert to type soon and leave people feeling like dickheads for allowing themselves to forget what an absolute waste of space clown he is. 

 

If he does, he'll be dropped like a brick. Howe won't tolerate that, I think we've seen that much.

[KaKa]

1 hour ago, gazza ladra said:

Interesting that that he was the one player that Howe singled out by name before the game. Made it clear that Shevley would be important to our success. And he responded.

 

Hope the Jedi mind tricks can work long term.

 

Did the same with Joelinton too, and he was also very good against Brentford.

[joeyt]

It doesn't excuse his shite performances over the last few years but he can be an asset when players are passing and moving around him and creating space rather than just standing still and we saw that yesterday for the first time in a long time