colinmk Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I don't really get the love for Hughton, although I agree he seems a nice bloke and he was mistreated by Ashley. Then again, he would never have been near the Newcastle job under a normal owner and he didn't do anything particularly special. Nice man but I wouldn't mention him in the same breath as the likes of Bobby. He gave us a promotion winning season, a great season in many respects. We came up and thrashed Villa, the mackems, beat Arsenal away. He got a side of misfits performing in Barton, Nolan, Carroll etc. Howay, nice bloke or not, he did a fucking great job here on a par with any given the circumstances. After the 6-1 to LO many were predicting a Portsmouth scenario or worse. He ranks 3rd to KK and Sir Bobby for me as our best ever managers since Joe Harvey. Yep he did a really excellent job and somehow managed to have the club constantly going in the right direction despite the cunts he worked for. I think a lot of that is to do with the kind of character he is like you say, demands respect and most of the fans could appreciate that. For me, the sacking of Hughton was the worst decision made in Ashley's entire reign here, was incredibly out of order and all because he had outgrown them and pissed them off. I really can't understand fans thinking he didn't do a very special job considering what we all know about the club. He was sacked before Norwich went down btw, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/norwich-city/10814907/Norwich-City-pay-the-price-for-sacking-of-Chris-Hughton.html. They were still 5 clear of relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I don't really get the love for Hughton, although I agree he seems a nice bloke and he was mistreated by Ashley. Then again, he would never have been near the Newcastle job under a normal owner and he didn't do anything particularly special. Nice man but I wouldn't mention him in the same breath as the likes of Bobby. He gave us a promotion winning season, a great season in many respects. We came up and thrashed Villa, the mackems, beat Arsenal away. He got a side of misfits performing in Barton, Nolan, Carroll etc. Howay, nice bloke or not, he did a f***ing great job here on a par with any given the circumstances. After the 6-1 to LO many were predicting a Portsmouth scenario or worse. He ranks 3rd to KK and Sir Bobby for me as our best ever managers since Joe Harvey. Yep he did a really excellent job and somehow managed to have the club constantly going in the right direction despite the c***s he worked for. I think a lot of that is to do with the kind of character he is like you say, demands respect and most of the fans could appreciate that. For me, the sacking of Hughton was the worst decision made in Ashley's entire reign here, was incredibly out of order and all because he had outgrown them and p*ssed them off. I really can't understand fans thinking he didn't do a very special job considering what we all know about the club. He was sacked before Norwich went down btw, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/norwich-city/10814907/Norwich-City-pay-the-price-for-sacking-of-Chris-Hughton.html. They were still 5 clear of relegation. Exactly and fucking hell I didn't know he was sacked before they went down, 5 points clear as well. We would kill for that right now. His sacking was the worst decision and his appointment the best. Ironically we now find ourselves going back to where we were when he was appointed. We should never of sacked him. We would be a comfortable PL side easily, ala Everon or someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 It's worth remembering Hughton got sacked for not being a yes man, more than we can say about the guys who followed him until Rafa signed on. In many ways I'm glad he was sacked while his stock was still high here because that means he'll always be remembered fondly. I think he had his limitations as a manager, but compared to the appointments that followed he's like Bobby Robson. I thought we were pretty well organised under him really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Ronaldo still desperate to stick the boot into Hughton. So pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Forget about the results for a moment which were pretty good all things considered, but I thought one of his major strengths was how he handled the media. Never gave away too much but always kept his cool while maintaining his dignity. He handled the Carroll/Taylor bust up expertly. Look at what we have had since. Pardew calling a respected international manager an old cunt, Carver offering to fight his own fans, and McClaren smiling and laughing like a wet fart while a Sky reporter took the piss by holding an umbrella during the interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I wouldn't call the Sunderland result a good one. They're a terrible team and we should have beaten them handily. Kirchoff was the difference for them and we really should have brought an extra body into the midfield when it became obvious we were getting killed there. Gini pushing forward was leaving Shelvey way too deep and all by himself, an extra midfielder would have allowed him to get forward and influence the game a bit more while also nullifying Kirchof's influence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Ronaldo still desperate to stick the boot into Hughton. So pathetic. The 'boot in' is pointing out he didn't get Norwich up? Man you're such a soft pedantic shite. For the record: the best thing I can say about Chris Hughton is he's a top bloke, he did a fine job with us in the Championship, I was happy when he was confirmed permanently in October '09, I wasn't happy about his sacking and he'd obviously be preferable to the likes of Carver, Pardew and McClaren. The worst thing I can say is that he isn't a Premier League manager. He isn't. I hope this is the last time this crap gets brought up because it isn't really worth any discussion. It's fairly obvious what brackets Chris Hughton fit in, both in terms of our history and as a coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Seems that list of players away on international duty I posted earlier in the week was missing a lot of players (I got it off nufc.com who have since updated their list). Quite a few players away which won't help our cause. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-players-away-international-11084634 Aleksandar Mitrovic - Serbia Wednesday 23 - Poland (away) - friendly Tuesday 29 - Estonia (away) - friendly Chancel Mbemba - DR Congo Saturday 26 - Angola (home) - AFCON qualifier Tuesday 29 - Angola (away) - AFCON qualifier Seydou Doumbia - Ivory Coast Friday 25 - Sudan (home) - AFCON qualifier Tuesday 29 - Sudan (away) - AFCON qualifier Henri Saivet - Senegal Saturday 26 - Niger (home) - AFCON qualifier Tuesday 29 - Niger (away) - AFCON qualifier Georginio Wijnaldum - Netherlands Friday 25 - France (home) - friendly Tuesday 29 - England (away) - friendly - ITV, 7.45pm kick-off Moussa Sissoko - France Friday 25 - Holland (away) - friendly Wednesday 30 - Russia (home) - friendly Rob Elliot - Ireland Friday 25 - Switzerland (home) - friendly - Premier Sports, 7.45pm kick-off Tuesday 29 - Slovakia (home) - friendly - Premier Sports, 7.45pm kick-off Rolando Aarons - England U21s Saturday 26 - Switzerland (away) - U21 Euro 2017 qualifier - BT Sport Europe, 5.45pm kick-off Alex Gilliead - England U20s Sunday 27 - Canada (home) - friendly Adam Armstrong and Freddie Woodman - England U19s Thursday 24 - Georgia (in Spain) - Euro qualifier Saturday 26 - Greece (in Spain) - Euro qualifier Tuesday 29 - Spain (in Spain) - Euro qualifier Kyle Cameron - Scotland U19s Wednesday 23 - Belgium (in Croatia) - Euro qualifier Friday 25 - Croatia (in Croatia) - Euro qualifier Monday 28 - Bulgaria (in Croatia) - Euro qualifier Only about four of them are relevant though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It's worth remembering Hughton got sacked for not being a yes man, more than we can say about the guys who followed him until Rafa signed on. Rafa slagging off the (shitty) owners in public is what led to his leaving LFC. Might not get on like a house on fire with Ashley. OTOH, he did work for that Perez maniac at Real Madrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Assume Rafa knows what he's in for, and also that Charnley is willing to do what he says. Could go wrong like obviously. Ironically I can remember Hughton getting called a yes man when he was appointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 We must stop up! Newcastle United are in a desperate state, but hope remains - and his name is Rafa Benitez http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-desperate-state-hope-11094729#ICID=ios_ChronicleNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Assume Rafa knows what he's in for, and also that Charnley is willing to do what he says. Could go wrong like obviously. Ironically I can remember Hughton getting called a yes man when he was appointed. He said he spoke to Shearer before taking it on so you'd think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 We must stop up! Newcastle United are in a desperate state, but hope remains - and his name is Rafa Benitez http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-desperate-state-hope-11094729#ICID=ios_ChronicleNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Sounds so much more promising - this bit is especially encouraging: The sight of Cheick Tiote running around tirelessly and putting in challenge after challenge was one we have not been treated to often enough on matchdays in recent months, nevermind on the training field. Siem de Jong also looked fit and sharp, as did the likes of Jonjo Shelvey and Papiss Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Relegation will be so much harder to take with the fact that we'll lose Rafa. The thought of some English dinosaur of a manager like Pearson stood on the touchline in August while we battle to a 0-0 draw with Rotherham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I'm convinced that Rafa is going to keep us up, everything about him is positive and it will rub off on others and we simply couldn't be in better hands. He can take the club to heights that we haven't been to for a long time and the club will appear to be a professional outfit once again. All we need to do is back him 100% and let him get on with his job, it isn't rocket science and the pricks who run our club have fallen on their feet this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 We must stop up! Newcastle United are in a desperate state, but hope remains - and his name is Rafa Benitez http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-desperate-state-hope-11094729#ICID=ios_ChronicleNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Sounds so much more promising - this bit is especially encouraging: The sight of Cheick Tiote running around tirelessly and putting in challenge after challenge was one we have not been treated to often enough on matchdays in recent months, nevermind on the training field. Siem de Jong also looked fit and sharp, as did the likes of Jonjo Shelvey and Papiss Cisse. A fit and focused Tiote would be a help in a relegation battle, we know what he's prone to and his limitations but he will at least add balance to the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 God if Tiote is back to play alongside Shelvey, that will help the others to focus on attacking. I'm sure Rafa can fix the defence. It's up front that I'm worried about. Most important thing is we need to score first to let us build on the momentum. Concede first and we'll be chasing an equaliser all game long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Everytime I open this thread it contains some link or story about rafa which impresses me more and more. The man is an absolute gift from the football God's and it will be a sad sad day when he leaves the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 He is the best manager we will ever have, and in years to come, we will either be grieving at the thought of how short a time he managed us, or hounding him out. I really, really hope that if he keeps us up that other supporters realise this, even if we're 17th in the league half way through next season, that there are not calls for his head. In Rafa we trust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Bad news with siem looking sharp; he's likely to open his own throat with himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Still find it weird that this bloke is allegedly on the club's board but writes as though he's got fuck all to do with it. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-make-managerial-change-11086547 Newcastle United had to make a managerial change - and Rafa Benitez is a 'coup' for the club 08:30, 24 MAR 2016 OPINION BY BOB MONCUR It’s been some fortnight for Newcastle United with Steve McClaren leaving the club and Rafa Benitez coming in. There’s always reasons for managerial change and things don’t always go as smoothly as you’d like them to sometimes. It’s very easy to criticise but there’s always two sides to the story and there’s an explanation for it. Steve did his best as head coach and he’s been in the game long enough to know when the crowd turn on you a little bit there can be no way back. He knew that as well, and that’s football. It’s unfortunate sometimes and you pay the price. I think Rafa coming in has been a major coup for the club. A lot of us were down but Rafa has lifted the place and it could be the start of a new era. Things have changed a little bit already as he is coming in as manager. I think that’s very important and I am assuming he will be telling the club how he wants to strengthen the team, assuming all goes well. He is definitely confident as I have spoken to him already. Only time will tell but judging by the performances against Leicester and Sunderland there is no reason to doubt his confidence. Those two games were a lot more organised and players are starting to believe again. His record speaks for itself, he is a top class manager. I am a lot happier that Rafa is here because he’s got the team organised. I am not knocking Steve but the players have clearly had a lift with the new manager, which usually happens when someone new comes in. Steve did a good job and I got on well with him. He is a very good coach and I was privileged enough to be in some of his team meetings and I have to say when I listened to what he said it all made sense. Sometimes, though, the players didn’t produce - especially away from home. But the boss always takes the blame for results and when players don’t turn it on. We have eight games left and there are points to play for. If you win four or five you’ll stay up. I think it’s about four or five wins - one way or another. Look at Leicester last year – they went on a run and stayed up. Teams can turn it around for different reasons. Hopefully, Newcastle can do that in the last eight games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Still find it weird that this bloke is allegedly on the club's board but writes as though he's got f*** all to do with it. He's trying to keep a distance to avoid criticism at the same time as bigging the club up. I can't stand him, even if he has won a trophy in my lifetime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Oh he's definitely a worthless piece of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Oh he's definitely a worthless piece of shit. Nah, he's an old man they think is a useful figurehead. Scored 3 to win us a trophy that doesn't count any more, apparently, politics, but he is not worthless or a piece of shit. That's harsh, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Concur can fuck off, when did fans turn on SMC? He's only trying to lick arse to keep himself in a job. The club only appointed Rafa to keep themselves in the PL gravy train, nowt more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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