Dinho lad Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aston Villa will be stronger? Based on...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aston Villa will be stronger? Based on...? Desire from the new people in charge perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aston Villa will be stronger? Based on...? Them not being us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aston Villa will be stronger? Based on...? My thoughts exactly... Villa are the only club in the premier league atm that I wouldn't swap places with (obviously there the only club below us) but they are probably the only club who are in bigger disarray than us off the field aswell as on it ?... And the previous comments about us doing a Leeds/Pompey etc, I think it is far more likely that villa will really suffer and not come back for a few years.... Granted at the moment I do feel well not get back up any time soon either the way it stands... Benitez will obviously leave, God knows who well get in to replace him, and the way we're playing at the minute I wouldn't put money on us getting out of league 1 let alone the championship ... But I feel that all we would need to is appoint a competent manager... And address a few key areas and I think we would make a serious attempt for the top 2.... But with villa I get the feeling that the problems lie a lot deeper with them... Saying that thought whoever is joining us between the mackems/Norwich I think they would comfortably get back up ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aston Villa will be stronger? Based on...? They will be strong contenders for promotion, as will Sunderland- large PL clubs with similar budgets. All have been a shambles in the PL this season and before, however my point was just to show there is greater competition from "big clubs" with big budgets than when were there before. Villa are a shambles, but so are we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I see Villa being just as bad as Fulham and could find themselves in an equally bad state in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 At least the next Football manager will be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aston Villa will be stronger? Based on...? They will be strong contenders for promotion, as will Sunderland- large PL clubs with similar budgets. All have been a shambles in the PL this season and before, however my point was just to show there is greater competition from "big clubs" with big budgets than when were there before. Villa are a shambles, but so are we. I'm not sure how Sunderland will cope next season either. Fat Sam is a lot better at neutralising big teams than beating poor ones. Will the likes of Defoe or any of their international brigade want to hang around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 A lot of ifs and buts admittedly, but Fat Sam got Bolton and established them as a mid-table side and then got West Ham promoted (albeit through the playoffs). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aston Villa will be stronger? Based on...? They will be strong contenders for promotion, as will Sunderland- large PL clubs with similar budgets. All have been a shambles in the PL this season and before, however my point was just to show there is greater competition from "big clubs" with big budgets than when were there before. Villa are a shambles, but so are we. I'm not sure how Sunderland will cope next season either. Fat Sam is a lot better at neutralising big teams than beating poor ones. Will the likes of Defoe or any of their international brigade want to hang around? I would imagine Defoe will look for a move back south as he did in August, if Bournemouth come in for him again he'll be away. Sam will probably prefer that though so he can revert to type with a big fucker up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 A lot of ifs and buts admittedly, but Fat Sam got Bolton and established them as a mid-table side and then got West Ham promoted (albeit through the playoffs). That was a long time ago. I'd be surprised if other lower league clubs hadn't learned to cope with these techniques by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 A lot of ifs and buts admittedly, but Fat Sam got Bolton and established them as a mid-table side and then got West Ham promoted (albeit through the playoffs). That was a long time ago. I'd be surprised if other lower league clubs hadn't learned to cope with these techniques by now. Watching the channel 5 highlights show yesterday, you're in for a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Hope he drills into the players that giving free kicks away in dangerous positions is, well, a dangerous thing to do (funny that). So many are guilty of it- Ginger cuntflap, Tiote, Janmaat, even Chancel's letting it slip into his game...it's frustrating and pretty f***ing amateur to watch. He's got a monumental task on his hands. Even when Leicester were in this position last season, they still had a determination and rapport with each other in the team, a willingness to fight and battle, the nous to stick to a gameplan and to be disciplined in doing so. Watching some bald banjo string licking captain saunter round the pitch like it's a s*** version of Centre Parcs when we don't have the ball doesn't exactly fill the most optimistic abuse victim (fan) with hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Banaloona Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I thought he got his team selection wrong at the weekend. Taylor and Cisse should not have started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Selection was definitely wrong. Lascelles is by far the best header of a ball out of our defenders and should have been marking Mbokani who won 89% of his aerial duels against us. Anita shouldn't have been at LB, and Cisse should never start for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Where's this new manager bounce everyone was talking about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 We are bounce proof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Where's this new manager bounce everyone was talking about He stopped the derby run of defeats. Mitrovic is a goal a game striker under this manager...That's ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Only seen the goals from Saturday. Can't bring myself to watch extended highlights. From what I have read and heard, plus what I have seen from his first two games. I think we're far too cautious and slow to start. It's as if we're just trying to keep it tight and nick a goal, without really bothering with attacking. Yet we always concede first and then have to change our game plan and start making subs, quite early on. He's tinkered with the team a fair bit, already. Which is understandable, as he's been chucked in near the end of the season and nobody really knows what our 'best' team is. But from what some of my mate's have said about him, about him infuriating some fans and making head scratching decisions, seems to be ringing true. Starting Taylor over Lascelles and Cisse over Mitrovic, seemed a bit odd, to me. In Rafa's defence, he's come in far too late and he's got fuck all to work. Even less than McClaren, when you consider injuries. I also like how his in game changes and subs, actually seem to have an impact on the game. It's just too little too late. The writing was on the wall a long time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 TBF those were the only really questionable decision he's made since he arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 TBF those were the only really questionable decision he's made since he arrived. Playing Gini in a midfield 2 - I actually wanted to see this, but can see why some didn't. He hasn't played there for us for a long time. Some of his subs (that in hindsight, worked well) Moving Sissoko to left back. I'm not saying they have all been shit and I haven't agreed with them all. I was merely commenting on, some head scratching decisions. Which is what my Liverpool supporting mates, told me to expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 At least he doesn't stubbornly wait until the 80th minute of it not working before making changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickMack Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 He's the absolute least of our problems. Before the game having Taylor and MBemba together wasnt to much of a head scratching decision, ive liked what ive saw of Lascelles so far and would of preferred to see him start but i can see why he went for Taylor. In hindsight they were awful together but Anita and Janmaat (to a lesser extent)left them extremely exposed, would Lascelles of faired any better? Maybe. I can understand the Cisse situation too, the guy kept us in the league last year with sh*te service more a less on his own. Benitez wont stray from 4231, it works for him, its going to take time to for it to work with us, obviously time we havent got, but its our only chance. Id sooner have Benitez do that than some other chancer like the last few we've had play 2 up top long ball that never worked anyway. I dont believe any other manager would be doing any better than what he's doing with this bunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 There isn't a single system or set of personnel in any area of the team that is proven to be able to function competently for even two consecutive games. There isn't any bizarre team selection going on. Just a bloke trying to reshuffle the deckchairs on the Titanic and only just realising that every single chair has something fundamentally wrong with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I do think there's merit in the notion that his lack of experience i a relegation battle might be to our downfall in the short term. We've tried to play football and it just hasn't worked. We've looked much better whenever we've gone 4-4-2 and got crosses in the box. Benitez is a smart man. Had we got him in a month, definitely 2 earlier we would be safe. He would've learnt these lessons with 11 games to go, not 7. Of course he would be at Madrid around that time but we waited too long to get rid of SMC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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