AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I sort of agree that Rafa got his tactics wrong for the Aston Villa game but then again, our attacking players are so poor even if we'd went for it from the start it's no guarantee that we would have scored. As an example, Sissoko has scored one goal all season. Our cutting edge is pretty much blunt. Same feelings, only thing I might have done was leave Cisse on when he brought on Mitro. But just adding strikers doesn't necessarily solve the problem if the team isn't functioning going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 If Rafa stays on we will be promoted first try. We'll even get som momentum to gain some positivity and build on for the coming years. Without Rafa it's pretty much fucked. Hope im proved wrong. Hope someone says something about the plans for next season pretty soon, regardless of the outcome this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I don't think Rafa will even have these sorts of talks until it is mathematically certain that we will go down, even then I think he'll wait until the season has finished. Expect at least a couple of weeks of uncertainty yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 If Rafa stays on we will be promoted first try. We'll even get som momentum to gain some positivity and build on for the coming years. Without Rafa it's pretty much fucked. Hope im proved wrong. Hope someone says something about the plans for next season pretty soon, regardless of the outcome this week. Like I said in the other thread, it's not even about getting promotion first time of asking, with Rafa you will have someone who will look after the club and progress it over the next few years. Someone used Defoe as an example of a quality striker covering a multitude of sins. It's the same with a proper manager. Just like Keegan managed to paper over our horrendous running of the club at a higher level, if we give the reins to Benitez and he's allowed to run things as he sees fit, he can erase much of the incompetence of Ashley, Charnley, Concur and the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I hope he stays away, we are down now and I hope we crash and burn. With Rafa that wont happen. Ashley's time is up. Problem is, that's only true if he thinks it is - he's answerable to no-one (including the fans, he made that crystal clear), and the decision to leave is his and his alone. And unless someone ponys up his asking price (on which, even with relegation, he won't budge) then he stays. In my opinion he has made three good decisions - appointing Chris Mort (which he subsequently f*cked up), appointing Chris Hughton (which argumentably was a default decision out of his hands) and appointing Rafa Benitez (an astounding coup - months too late). Going down with Rafa gives me the same hope I had about 6 weeks into the last championship season, when it was clear we were going to absolutely walk it. Lose Rafa and that rag-tag bunch of semi professional sh*t-for-brains in the board, and the tourists on the pitch give me no hope whatsoever. If Rafa has the cojones to stay and fight, he could go down as legendary, not just at NUFC, but in football management as a whole. Would Wenger take on such a challenge? Mourinho? Guardiola? Like f*ck would they. Im not so, *cough* 'deluded' as to think NUFC are some sort of holy grail for managers, but Rafa is here now, we've had a glimpse of what he's capable of and to lose him after only 9 games would be a criminal waste of a fantastic opportunity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 To be honest he's done us a service just by joining us. We are the side who Rafa Benitez joined after Real Madrid, other managers will know of us now. He just gave us some of the status back that Ashley has thrown away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 If Rafa stays on we will be promoted first try. We'll even get som momentum to gain some positivity and build on for the coming years. Without Rafa it's pretty much fucked. Hope im proved wrong. Hope someone says something about the plans for next season pretty soon, regardless of the outcome this week. Like I said in the other thread, it's not even about getting promotion first time of asking, with Rafa you will have someone who will look after the club and progress it over the next few years. Someone used Defoe as an example of a quality striker covering a multitude of sins. It's the same with a proper manager. Just like Keegan managed to paper over our horrendous running of the club at a higher level, if we give the reins to Benitez and he's allowed to run things as he sees fit, he can erase much of the incompetence of Ashley, Charnley, Concur and the rest. 100% agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I hope he stays away, we are down now and I hope we crash and burn. With Rafa that wont happen. Ashley's time is up. Problem is, that's only true if he thinks it is - he's answerable to no-one (including the fans, he made that crystal clear), and the decision to leave is his and his alone. And unless someone ponys up his asking price (on which, even with relegation, he won't budge) then he stays. In my opinion he has made three good decisions - appointing Chris Mort (which he subsequently f*cked up), appointing Chris Hughton (which argumentably was a default decision out of his hands) and appointing Rafa Benitez (an astounding coup - months too late). Going down with Rafa gives me the same hope I had about 6 weeks into the last championship season, when it was clear we were going to absolutely walk it. Lose Rafa and that rag-tag bunch of semi professional sh*t-for-brains in the board, and the tourists on the pitch give me no hope whatsoever. If Rafa has the cojones to stay and fight, he could go down as legendary, not just at NUFC, but in football management as a whole. Would Wenger take on such a challenge? Mourinho? Guardiola? Like f*ck would they. Im not so, *cough* 'deluded' as to think NUFC are some sort of holy grail for managers, but Rafa is here now, we've had a glimpse of what he's capable of and to lose him after only 9 games would be a criminal waste of a fantastic opportunity Top post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 i've said for ages i've wanted to see one of these top managers take on an actual challenge rather than just merry-go-round their way about the top jobs if rafa stays on he's got me for life like, regardless of what happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It says here giving Dummett a new contract was decided before Rafa arrived: - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-fans-could-know-11306181 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 O'Leary you came, when I heard I was shaking. Lets send you away. O'Leary, your football, my heart it is breaking. Fuck off today. (Oh mandy) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 i've said for ages i've wanted to see one of these top managers take on an actual challenge rather than just merry-go-round their way about the top jobs if rafa stays on he's got me for life like, regardless of what happens Completely agree. How good do you have to be to win with a team that already win? Rafa has more respect from me for taking on NUFC than Mourhinio and the like will ever have. What Claudio Ranieri has achieved with Leicester vastly out ways anything Pep Guardiola has ever done in management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It says here giving Dummett a new contract was decided before Rafa arrived: - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-fans-could-know-11306181 Ryders article contains this beautifully worded Quote........... "That would put a question mark over the future of chief scout Graham Carr and also whether the club’s current football board structure would is workable" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I could actually see us averaging near enough 50,000 in the Championship next season if he were to stay on. Could well be just over the 30,000 mark if he goes. That's how important he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-fans-could-know-11306181 Headline says we could know by the end of the week, first sentence says we will know by the end of the week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Having a disagreement on Facebook with some moron who says Benitez is part of the problem because we've only won 2 out of his 9 games in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Unfollow, mute or physically go kill him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Having a disagreement on Facebook with some moron who says Benitez is part of the problem because we've only won 2 out of his 9 games in charge. So hard to make any progress as a club when a significant portion of the fanbase is dumber than fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 We've only won 2 but we've picked up 10 points in that time. Over the course of a season that would have put us on 42 points. Part of the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Having a disagreement on Facebook with some moron who says Benitez is part of the problem because we've only won 2 out of his 9 games in charge. So hard to make any progress as a club when a significant portion of the fanbase is dumber than fuck. Not sure the odd social media doylum has that significant an affect on the fortunes of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Having a disagreement on Facebook with some moron who says Benitez is part of the problem because we've only won 2 out of his 9 games in charge. First mistake. Refuse point blank to engage with obvious idiots on facebook, why would you ffs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I think personally Rafa will get a better offer and he will be off. I can see Ian Cathro taken over then Sent from my HTC One M8s using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I think Spain will come a calling and then rubbing shoulders with the Chuckle Brothers after playing Rotherham won't look so appealing. I know right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Probably into the last meaningful 48hrs of this man being our manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weznufc Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Gonna be so gutted to see him leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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