Guest ElCid Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Debate about Rafa on SSPL now It's only a question of time before he is away could be next couple of weeks, could be January or could be end of season. His words on that interview are implying that Ashley has filled him with total s*** (no surprise there mind) and there is no way he will continue to be undermined. He loves the fans no doubt but he also has a reputation to maintain and there is no way he will keep that with Ashley keeping him handcuffed. I know some on here think he will stay for the fans but the situation has become impossible for it to be continued and that's why Rafa is still coming out expressing his annoyance . Also thought Merson actually spoke well for probably one of the first times ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Was this a new interview, or are you just going off what they were saying on the show? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Was this a new interview, or are you just going off what they were saying on the show? No they had a snip of today from the training session basically saying that it was clear what had been agreed in the meeting with Ashley but that has changed since Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Cool. That's the one as I said only a matter of time before he goes as he's too big a name to be continuously undermined Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 There was a report that he'd have to pay the club a significant sum of money if he resigned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 "what happened after I was not expecting" i would be hoping that's the mad fee's players are going for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 He said that the other day and made it clear he had no intention of leaving and was going to continue and do his best. I'm sure I didn't imagine it. At least he's over it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 He said that the other day and made it clear he had no intention of leaving and was going to continue and do his best. I'm sure I didn't imagine it. So why is he keep expressing his annoyance and that's the first time I've heard him say that so clearly about it being made clear at the original meeting and than totally changed. You maybe right but I'll be amazed if he's here at the end of the season. It's another Keegan saga unfolding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 "Tyneside Man meets with board of directors, what happened next will blow you away." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Its not though. These players are his players. No one else is picking who comes in, which was the whole issue with Keegan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Its not though. These players are his players. No one else is picking who comes in, which was the whole issue with Keegan. The whole issue with Keegan was being undermined as is Rafa - maybe different events but still ends up the same conclusion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I just hope that this is purely a lack of cash situation and that the objective is for mid table safety and then next summer to invest way more. If Rafa can be patient enough can we be? If Ashley does what happened to Keegan there would be a revolt. The loyalty is purely with the manager.. we would turn our back on the club (while Ashley remained) if he were to fuck Rafa over causing him to leave. We've done the Pardews, Kinnears, McClarens etc... there's no going back to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 "what happened after I was not expecting" i would be hoping that's the mad fee's players are going for That's exactly what I was thinking. Need to see or hear it tbh to make up your own mind but it doesnt seem like it's a "Ashley fucked me over" way from the text to me We had a meeting £xx million for these 5+ players ..in reality can only buy 2 of the players with that money Fits with the quotes about "10m can get you a player who can kick the ball, 20m to score goals" or whatever it was. He's seemed shocked about prices in a few interviews I've read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I just want to enjoy it whilst he's here. Fretting about him leaving time after time gets really tedious more than worrying, analysing every intricate detail of his quotes in the press and doing detective work to try and link it to Ashley et al is just as soporific now. IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackandWhite Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 it's very hard not to be pessimistic isn't it? This is a Mike Ashley run Newcastle. As long as he's here it will be same thing over and over again that we've experienced for 9 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 "what happened after I was not expecting" i would be hoping that's the mad fee's players are going for That's exactly what I was thinking. Need to see or hear it tbh to make up your own mind but it doesnt seem like it's a "Ashley fucked me over" way from the text to me We had a meeting £xx million for these 5+ players ..in reality can only buy 2 of the players with that money Fits with the quotes about "10m can get you a player who can kick the ball, 20m to score goals" or whatever it was. He's seemed shocked about prices in a few interviews I've read I've seen this theory a few times but it hasn't sat well with me that someone who lives, breathes, eats sleeps football like Rafa would get caught unawares with regards to prices being affected by new TV Money. It's possible but I think he's just less happy with the board than the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I don't think anyone expected the levels of inflation we've seen. 6 months ago if you told someone you'd pay £45m for Sigurdsson they'd think you were mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 227M For Neymar is mental. One year ago you are saying 100M for Pogba was mental. Now it is a fucking brilliant deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I just hope that this is purely a lack of cash situation and that the objective is for mid table safety and then next summer to invest way more. If Rafa can be patient enough can we be? If Ashley does what happened to Keegan there would be a revolt. The loyalty is purely with the manager.. we would turn our back on the club (while Ashley remained) if he were to fuck Rafa over causing him to leave. We've done the Pardews, Kinnears, McClarens etc... there's no going back to that. you reckon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I don't think anyone expected the levels of inflation we've seen. 6 months ago if you told someone you'd pay £45m for Sigurdsson they'd think you were mental. Weren't there stories in January of us coming in for him this summer for £20m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The idea that he's talking about the general prices in the market makes no sense whatsoever. Unless what he's said has been edited to shit stir, then saying 'what happened after I was not expecting' immediately after 'I had a meeting with the board and things were very clear' can only mean one thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 There was a report that he'd have to pay the club a significant sum of money if he resigned. He's tied in so he'll stay for this season then probably leave when his contract either ends or someone buys him out. He's not going to get the chance to build a team worth his name in the next couple of years I reckon, he's probably sussed Ashley by now. I expect he'll do as good a job he can while he's here though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Cool. suspect hes referring to Ashley making his Partly Political Broadcast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The longer he stays, the less likely he is to want to abandon the 'project' imo. I think he and Ashley could work together for a while with a back and forward relationship. The reasons he joined are still paramount, family, geography, premier league, etc. I'd be really surprised if he left before his contract ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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