JH Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Sunday is vital. Lose the next two and we're as good as done IMO. Win the next two and I think we'll go on to stay up. Mighty fine margins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 One positive from today was that Rafa did at least make changes early enough to try and affect the result. All the substitutes were positive and other than Doumbia, given enough time to make a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Really depressed after tonight. The first time we get a world class manager for years and I feel it's just going to be another false dawn. Gutted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Is he allowed more than one miracle in a lifetime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I'm not sure where all the negativity is coming from, try watching back any of McClarens away games and watch tonight's game back again to see the massive strides we've made already. We still have a game in hand on Norwich and the Mackem game can be a huge turning point for us. Rafa has breathed a new lease of life into these players in a very short space of time and he has another week to make even more of an impact. IF we lose the derby then by all means start to panic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 It was a different team compared to the Bournemouth game TBH, we looked like we actually might want to stay in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 He looked pretty crestfallen in his interview. Clearly knows how hard its gonna be to keep us in the league. Alternatively he thinks we should have got something tonight and minor adjustments would have done so. As I said in the pre-match thread, this fixture (and its timing) was never likely to produce any points. It's more important that he's learnt enough about the squad to get more out of them starting with the derby. Today it was all about the performance and coming so soon after his arrival was always going to be very difficult. There were many encouraging signs there for the upcoming games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 3 days of training, played our 2 backup CBs, our ginger cunt at LB, and we conceded 1 and fought the entire match and could have had a shout for an offisde on their goal and a penalty for us. 5-6 days to be with the squad to prepare for Sunderland. Get 3 points, 2 weeks until Norwich and then onward and hopefully upward. Rafa's post match demeanor just looked like a man who was frustrated, he doesn't like losing, no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I'm not getting too downbeat about this. We lost, yes, but it was to the team at the top of the league and at their place and only by one goal. I think we can beat Sunderland on Sunday and start building some momentum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 3 days of training, played our 2 backup CBs, our ginger cunt at LB, and we conceded 1 and fought the entire match and could have had a shout for an offisde on their goal and a penalty for us. 5-6 days to be with the squad to prepare for Sunderland. Get 3 points, 2 weeks until Norwich and then onward and hopefully upward. Rafa's post match demeanor just looked like a man who was frustrated, he doesn't like losing, no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I'm not getting too downbeat about this. We lost, yes, but it was to the team at the top of the league and at their place and only by one goal. I think we can beat Sunderland on Sunday and start building some momentum. I'm confident we won't lose to the Mackems. But winning means scoring, and scoring means creating chances. We didn't see much of that today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 He knows he has a job on to keep us up. The lack of quality we have throughout the squad is startling - and this after having £80million spent since last summer. Carr and Charnley want fucking shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Jesus Christ, I can't believe some people are actually upset by tonight's result/performance - we played the league leaders, at their place, three days after the new manager was appointed - no wonder people take the piss out of our fans! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Take the piss out of our fans for stating how shite our players are? Aye they can fuck off like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I'm not getting too downbeat about this. We lost, yes, but it was to the team at the top of the league and at their place and only by one goal. I think we can beat Sunderland on Sunday and start building some momentum. I'm confident we won't lose to the Mackems. But winning means scoring, and scoring means creating chances. We didn't see much of that today. To be fair we saw plenty of chances, we just didn't put them away. Tonight's performance was streets ahead of anything we've had in a very long time, if that's after three days with Rafa imagine what we'll be like once he's settled in - just hope he settles in fast enough to keep us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I have no doubt that we're going to be better organised after tonight. 3 days of training and we looked like a team which we haven't often done and I rarely felt we were in danger of leaking goals. If front of goal is another thing and is our current biggest problem and we need to do something different because we'll always beat risk if we're not looking like scoring. Marks out of 10 for his first game, 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I'm not sure where all the negativity is coming from, try watching back any of McClarens away games and watch tonight's game back again to see the massive strides we've made already. We still have a game in hand on Norwich and the Mackem game can be a huge turning point for us. Rafa has breathed a new lease of life into these players in a very short space of time and he has another week to make even more of an impact. IF we lose the derby then by all means start to panic. . Very encouraged by the impression Rafa has made in a short space of time. Greater organisation/solidity/spiritedness was the most noticeable improvement (limiting Leicester to one shot on target with the back four we put out is no mean feat), but in patches I thought our buildup play showed greater promise/potential than it has under previous managers, albeit with the types of growing pains (e.g. players not always being on the same wavelength) which you would expect from a team in tactical transition. You could even see the effect of those one-touch Madrid drills on a few occasions when we broke forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 We have better players and a better manager than Sunderland and we have home soil advantage, they have the psychological advantage and that has been used to full effect against weak minded management. Benitez needs to get the players right in the head most of all going into this game. We need belief and confidence. MOST of our players are better than theirs...but they have the edge in attitude, although this may be been altered by Sunday, and they also have a player who can snatch a goal, even though he is in the veteran stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I don't know where our goals are going to come from. We have players who can score, maybe Wijnaldum is our best bet unless we can get Cisse fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ian Ayre leaving Liverpool next year. Did he have a good relationship with Benitez at Liverpool? Has to be better at his job than Charnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Difficult to gauge. He's not been here long enough to see massive changes. Leicester weren't that great, I'm sure our gameplan played a part in that. They had two decent chances all game and scored one. Well, in fairness, the goal wasn't that much of a chance, just a great finish. It was also an away game and for the most part, we've been pathetic on the road. We rarely create fuck all and we've scored seven away goals, all season. So you can't expect it to change overnight. We've played well at home in comparison. So if Rafa gets a similar level of improvement from our home games, then we may be in with a shout of stopping up. I think we looked a bit more organised and with 1-2 players back, we might actually manage to get some points away from home. Steven Taylor stuck in reverse all game didn't help. So hopefully Mbemba/Colo, might actually help us out slightly. He's not great, but I'd play Lascelles over Taylor. For me, last night was all about trying to take the positives and not get hammered and ruin our confidence. We probably deserved a point and so long as we build on the performance, then it wasn't too bad. My biggest worries, are that we're running out of games and I just don't think we're ever going to score too many. So we're going to have to be keeping a lot of clean sheets, or conceding no more than a goal a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 He looked pretty crestfallen in his interview. Clearly knows how hard its gonna be to keep us in the league. Nah, just knackered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Not bringing him in after chelsea could still prove the undoing imo. We'd be far better off now had he been given that extra time (and games obviously). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Not bringing him in after chelsea could still prove the undoing imo. We'd be far better off now had he been given that extra time (and games obviously). Agreed. I think we would have got at least a point from Stoke. They were terrible that night. Bournemouth, who knows? But it's not just the two extra games we missed out on. It's the time with the squad. He would have been in the job 3 weeks by now, if we had appointed him after the Chelsea game. Instead, he's working like a loon, trying to figure out how to get us out of this mess, with not long between fixtures. Need to get a win Sunday and then hope he can work some magic during the international break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 The positivity towards our manager is so refreshing, there was optimism in an away end containing Newcastle supporters for the first time since the early 2000s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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