Lenny Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Tiote and Lucas holding with an attacking midfielder in front would be pretty damn strong for the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It would fall flat on its face tbh, the front 4 would need someone to initiate attacks and set them up. I'm sure Rafa knows that though and if Lucas did arrive he would never pair him with Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It would fall flat on its face tbh, the front 4 would need someone to initiate attacks and set them up. I'm sure Rafa knows that though and if Lucas did arrive he would never pair him with Tiote. Not sure I totally agree with that. It depends how flexible he wants the players beyond those two to be. If we are playing a rigid formation then you may be right, but if we're going to have interchanging attacking players throughout games then it could work well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickMack Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Shirley no-one in their right mind can picture Tiote staying regardless of whether we get Lucas or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Shirley no-one in their right mind can picture Tiote staying regardless of whether we get Lucas or not? Why not? He did well under Rafa and selling him would force us to get another midfielder which would cost more than Tioté is worth. Rafa wants a big squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickMack Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I thought it looked obvious he was going to China, I know it didn't happen in January but we were in desperate times. I just see the same thing happening with Tiote as what happened with Cisse, out of the blue signs for Chinese Club. Not saying he wouldn't be useful, we currently have Anita, Shelvey, Saivet, Colback who could play there and maybe young Hayden is his replacement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I think he will stay fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickMack Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Be pleased if he does stay. And if he does leave, I will be right, which I like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It would fall flat on its face tbh, the front 4 would need someone to initiate attacks and set them up. I'm sure Rafa knows that though and if Lucas did arrive he would never pair him with Tiote. Not sure I totally agree with that. It depends how flexible he wants the players beyond those two to be. If we are playing a rigid formation then you may be right, but if we're going to have interchanging attacking players throughout games then it could work well. Someone still has to play the ball into those players, it would be just like England at the Euros where you had a load of players looking to either score or run but nobody playing them in. There's never been a 4231 that worked where at least one of the two was able to put the 4 in front into good positions when they receive the ball. It's one of the reasons Arsenal fell apart at the end of last season once Cazorla went down, they had nobody playing the ball into Ozil and the likes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It would fall flat on its face tbh, the front 4 would need someone to initiate attacks and set them up. I'm sure Rafa knows that though and if Lucas did arrive he would never pair him with Tiote. Not sure I totally agree with that. It depends how flexible he wants the players beyond those two to be. If we are playing a rigid formation then you may be right, but if we're going to have interchanging attacking players throughout games then it could work well. Someone still has to play the ball into those players, it would be just like England at the Euros where you had a load of players looking to either score or run but nobody playing them in. There's never been a 4231 that worked where at least one of the two was able to put the 4 in front into good positions when they receive the ball. It's one of the reasons Arsenal fell apart at the end of last season once Cazorla went down, they had nobody playing the ball into Ozil and the likes. Especially because I presume a lot of teams in the Championship will be more defensive against us. I think Shelvey will be a very important player for us this season in that respect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Not sure if mentioned - Douglas says we want at least 2 more - a midfielder and a forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Lucas and one more and I'd be happy. Would still prefer we signed a left back to replace Dummett mind particularly since there'll be more emphasis on us to attack this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I'm actually optimistic about Dummett and looking forward to him making the role his own. It would be nice to see an academy product really come through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Hopefully his crossing and taking on a man will improve naturally if he's going to be expected to do it more often I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Lucas has went off injured for Liverpool with a hamstring injury. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 They've put a goalkeeper on outfield to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 My name is Lucas, i always lie on the first floor.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 They've put a goalkeeper on outfield to replace him. Sure we did that with Steve Harper once Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 They've put a goalkeeper on outfield to replace him. Sure we did that with Steve Harper once Yep in a friendly under Fat Head i think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Aye Celtic iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Hamstring injury for Lucas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 2 hamstring injuries in 30 minutes, poor lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 2 hamstring injuries in 30 minutes, poor lad The drawbacks of not being an amputee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 2 hamstring injuries in 30 minutes, poor lad Has passed the audition. Sign him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 He was apparently captaining the side too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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